Sarah147 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Hello, So, I've only got two orders open to talking -- the RSM and the order in LA. Now, if they both realize God isn't calling me, I will take it as time to discern single vs josephite vs marriage. Where on earth do I begin? And I KNOW this isn't MY TIME, but when God wills it... I know it could be years before something shows fruit. God bless you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Prayers for you, you are definitely in my prayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah147 Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 I know they haven't discerned I'm NOT called yet... But this will help me prepare mentally if they do say so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das8949 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 [quote name='JoyfulLife' timestamp='1323560404' post='2348748'] Hello, So, I've only got two orders open to talking -- the RSM and the order in LA. Now, if they both realize God isn't calling me, I will take it as time to discern single vs josephite vs marriage. Where on earth do I begin? And I KNOW this isn't MY TIME, but when God wills it... I know it could be years before something shows fruit. God bless you! [/quote] What is Josephite? How old are you if I may ask, but if you are uncomfortable with that question it is ok. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah147 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 Late twenties. Josephite is a marriage without sexual relations. It's focused on living chastity. I was more focused on that when I didn't think I could manage children, but that fear is slowly fading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StClare_OraProNobis Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 It makes sense that you might have been afraid of having children if you didn't think it possible for you to manage them. But what would be the attraction other than that to marriage without the marital embrace? Sex within marriage is an inherently GOOD thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah147 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) I don't have any problems with sexual relations. My focus has been more about the children part. But I think fears and uncertainty, and never babysitting are a part of that. Edited December 11, 2011 by JoyfulLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StClare_OraProNobis Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 okay. that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithLuin Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Peace and Good Will to you, [b]Joyful Life[/b]! I think that you should focus on discerning with the two orders you are in communication with. Knowing that you have a 'backup plan' to consider marriage or the single life is fine, but I don't think you need actively discern either of those at the moment. Also...as for a Josephite marriage...I really think that is something that needs to be discerned [i]with[/i] a partner. The two of you would have to discern it together. It's an unusual situation, so not usually something that is sought out. And...to be blunt....if you wait another 10 years or so to get married, you are unlikely to have the option to bear children, so perhaps that is a question to save for if/when the possibility of marrying a man arises! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah147 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 That thought kind of saddens me... losing the ability to have children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureSister2009 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I never heard of Josephite before. Interesting. Probably not something I would consider for myself. But praying for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithLuin Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Well, I'm a few years older than you, and single, so....it's a reality I have to be aware of. I mean, there's always the opportunity to foster children who are in need of a temporary home and such, so I don't think that biological clocks have to determine parenthood options...but they do tick. A lot can happen in a year, though, let alone 10, so it's not exactly something you have to worry about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Marie Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Having children, especially for women, is an issue that they have to take a strong good look at in whatever vocation they follow. In religious life there always comes a time when the baby thing starts nagging at you and you have to come to peace with it. It's good to be aware of that feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) [quote name='FutureSister2009' timestamp='1323571602' post='2348873'] I never heard of Josephite before. Interesting. Probably not something I would consider for myself. But praying for you [/quote] I think finding a 'Josephite spouse' would be a very difficult thing to do and as someone else has said here, it is something that BOTH parties need to discern. I think it would be more likely to occur with two friends who have both decided to live celibate lives and known each other for a long time and decided that sharing their lives would be of more service to God than living apart, rather than actively seeking out another person who wants to do this. I also don't think it would be easy and would require the help of a spiritual director or priest to determine if this is indeed a calling from God because the main purpose of marriage is procreation. Even the Martins, who wanted to live a Josephite marriage were counselled by their priest to have children. The reason that Joseph and Mary didn't have relations is a little different - she already had a spouse, the Holy Spirit and was going to give birth to the Son of God. Be sure to have a SD in on this discernment!!! Edited December 11, 2011 by nunsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah147 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) I guess my main question and reason for this thread is how to discern between single VS marriage in general, if it comes to be that I'm not called to RL? Where would I begin? Edited December 11, 2011 by JoyfulLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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