Voter Id Laws: A Fake Solution To A Fake Problem

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1350022266' post='2492672']

Sure, they're different. And I went to the extreme for a laugh. But the principle holds--you can't campaign at the pols because it's against some law or another. Whether Groo's intention was to campaign or not, the workers at the precinct--who are donating their time and shouldn't be rewarded by having to deal with snarky comments or political BS--didn't want a scene to be made. I would've kicked him out of line, too!
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Honestly, I want them to have to deal with so much BS that nobody is willing to do it the next time around. Anything to get people out of the whole silly charade.

But that is beside the point. I am really just causing trouble.

[kujo]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1350022417' post='2492675']
Honestly, I want them to have to deal with so much BS that nobody is willing to do it the next time around. Anything to get people out of the whole silly charade.

But that is beside the point. I am really just causing trouble.
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What silly charade?

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1350022518' post='2492676']




What silly charade?
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Politics.

[Groo the Wanderer]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1350021613' post='2492662']
I'm pretty sure that most states have very strict rules about people not being allowed to engage in any sort of campaigning within a certain amount of distance from the voting booths. The idea is to allow voters to make their selections without being harassed or seized upon by overzealous volunteers and zealots.

So, you were *this close* from being removed because you were being a jackass, which, though constitutionally protected in other geographical places and dates and times, doesn't mean you get to cause a scene at your voting precinct on election day, no matter how lulzy your scene is.. Penalizing you wouldn't be "disenfranchisement," any more so than stopping you from voting after you decapitated someone in front of you in line at the pols would be.
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wow you jump to a lot of conclusions. You're just a butthat looking for an ecxuse to be a butthat

First, I was not campaigning - this was 8 years AFTER the Florida debacle. Second, I was speaking to my wife. The comment was not directed at anyone. Third, I did not cause a scene. Fourth, you are still a butthat.

[kujo]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1350062058' post='2492798']


wow you jump to a lot of conclusions. You're just a butthat looking for an ecxuse to be a butthat

First, I was not campaigning - this was 8 years AFTER the Florida debacle. Second, I was speaking to my wife. The comment was not directed at anyone. Third, I did not cause a scene. Fourth, you are still a butthat.
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You said yourself--you said what you said "rather loudly." Clearly, you were trying to get attention, or am I mistaken?

[Groo the Wanderer]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1350062287' post='2492800']

You said yourself--you said what you said "rather loudly." Clearly, you were trying to get attention, or am I mistaken?
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I have a loud voice that carries naturally. I was trying to get the attention of my wife. Yes, you are very mistaken.

[kujo]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1350062458' post='2492801']

I have a loud voice that carries naturally. I was trying to get the attention of my wife. Yes, you are very mistaken.
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So, you're telling us that you did not intend for others to hear and laugh at your timely witticism?

[Groo the Wanderer]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1350063062' post='2492807']

So, you're telling us that you did not intend for others to hear and laugh at your timely witticism?
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methinks you and reyb may be the same being. you both jump to a lot of conclusions through hoops in vain attempts to make your point.


you know, Islam also states that when reality does not fit their beliefs, they are to change reality to match Islam. you seems to be struggling to do the same thing. just sayin bro...

[kujo]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1350063684' post='2492815']


methinks you and reyb may be the same being. you both jump to a lot of conclusions through hoops in vain attempts to make your point.


you know, Islam also states that when reality does not fit their beliefs, they are to change reality to match Islam. you seems to be struggling to do the same thing. just sayin bro...
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That's because I am a closet Muslim.

Or I [i]was,[/i] until I just came out to you. The closet was stuffy and filled with burqas and hollowed out flack jackets.

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vote early and often
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[fides' Jack]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1346638078' post='2477733']
You know, I expected the people arguing against Hasan here to be saying "No, these ID requirements dont prevent citizens from voting" or maybe "Yes, that is a concern, but it can be mitigated in these ways, and is IMO a risk worth taking for the perceived reward."

But instead it is full of people saying "The people who will be excluded(little argument about that there) dont matter anyways, because I think they are losers and leeches. Since they are poor(and thus, obviously lazy) they dont need to have the right to vote."

Reprehensible and completely pathetic. The people who fought and died for democracy in your country would spit in your face.
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EEWWWWW!!! Zombie spit!!! It's not contagious, is it?

[Anomaly]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1346638078' post='2477733']
You know, I expected the people arguing against Hasan here to be saying "No, these ID requirements dont prevent citizens from voting" or maybe "Yes, that is a concern, but it can be mitigated in these ways, and is IMO a risk worth taking for the perceived reward."

But instead it is full of people saying "The people who will be excluded(little argument about that there) dont matter anyways, because I think they are losers and leeches. Since they are poor(and thus, obviously lazy) they dont need to have the right to vote."

Reprehensible and completely pathetic. The people who fought and died for democracy in your country would spit in your face.
[/quote][size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif][font=Arial]I sincerely believe you are very wrong. People I know, like my immigrant father, who fought for the democracy of this Country, and ended up dying from injuries suffered during the war would not want to spit in my face. Considering the sacrifice and effort expended by these people for the right to vote democratically. I think that whining about the effort and time to put into vote is more demeaning of their sacrifice than the concept that the right to vote is a burdensome responsibility, and does require effort and thought. Being poor or rich is not indicative of being lazy. Complaining about getting an ID that is pretty much a standard item that is needed to participate in many aspects of American society is generally indicative of a lazy attitude and is concerning of how much effort and thought they put in when exercising the right to vote that people have shed blood to secure for them.[/font][/font][/color]

[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]There is a fundamental difference of valuing a Right between the two statements: "That's my Right, give it to me!" vs "That's my Right, I will work to obtain and exercise it.". Based on my experiences with my father and other family members who serve(d) in the military, the second statement is much more accurate of the people I know who sacrificed for our right to vote and disagree.[/font][/color][/size]

[Groo the Wanderer]

[color=#282828][font='Open Sans', sans-serif]easy analysis:[/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font='Open Sans', sans-serif]1. either Romney or Obama WILL win the election[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font='Open Sans', sans-serif]2. a vote for neither is the same as a vote for Obama[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font='Open Sans', sans-serif]3. neither is truly pro life, but Romney is closer, hence an improvement[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font='Open Sans', sans-serif]4. SO WHY THE FLOOPY WOULD YOU THROW AWAY A CHANCE AT EVEN A LITTLE IMPROVEMENT BY VOTING FOR SOMEONE YOU KNOW CANNOT WIN??!?![/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font='Open Sans', sans-serif]that's like not praying in front of the abortion clinic because you might only save 1 life out of the 50 that day. save the 1 when you can for pete's sakes![/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font='Open Sans', sans-serif]REALLY PHOLKS!?!?!?![/font][/color]

[Nihil Obstat]

That post was boring enough the first time.