Ash Wednesday Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) [quote name='kujo' timestamp='1352266307' post='2505510'] You guys are hilarious. You lost. America persists. And if your party and philosophy can't survive this thumping, then it's not worth the millions of votes cast in its favor today and in the preceding days. [/quote] America will not persist, not as we once knew it. Regardless of what someone's political philosophy -- we are on the way down and will be undone by our own foolishness, laziness and greed. Edited November 7, 2012 by Ash Wednesday
Freedom Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1352267216' post='2505523'] I'm sorry but to say that our country's voters are stupid is such a bad statement. [/quote] I disagree completely! The title of this thread is true and brutally honest. If anyone feels that it's a bad statement, probably feels stupid with their voting decision and the outcome of this election. Not to mention that several phatmass members propped this post!
PhuturePriest Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1352273422' post='2505609'] I disagree completely! The title of this thread is true and brutally honest. If anyone feels that it's a bad statement, probably feels stupid with their voting decision and the outcome of this election. Not to mention that several phatmass members propped this post! [/quote] I think we have (No pun intended) dumbed down the meaning of "Stupid" so much in our common language. Here are some of the meanings from a quick Google search: [color=#333333]1.[/color] [color=#333333]lacking[/color] ordinary [color=#333333]quickness[/color] and keenness of mind; dull. 2. [color=#333333]characterized[/color] by or [color=#333333]proceeding[/color] from mental dullness; foolish; [color=#333333]senseless:[/color] [color=#333333]a[/color] [color=#333333]stupid[/color] [color=#333333]question.[/color] 3. [color=#333333]tediously[/color] [color=#333333]dull,[/color] [color=#333333]especially[/color] [color=#333333]due[/color] to lack of meaning or sense; inane; [color=#333333]pointless:[/color] [color=#333333]a[/color] [color=#333333]stupid[/color] party. 4. annoying or [color=#333333]irritating;[/color] [color=#333333]troublesome:[/color] Turn [color=#333333]off[/color] [color=#333333]that[/color] stupid radio. 5. in a state of stupor; [color=#333333]stupefied:[/color] [color=#333333]stupid[/color] from [color=#333333]fatigue.[/color] [color=#333333]The American people are not this. The American people have been lied to, they have been deceived into thinking that this president is putting us on the right track, but they are not stupid in the literal sense of the word. To say so is uncharitable, and the faith calls us to charity. It is time to teach and catechize, not slander and belittle. The latter route gets us nowhere and it makes us look bad, and it definitely doesn't do us any favors in the voting booths.[/color]
Ash Wednesday Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) I actually got up for the day, came to work, and I feel better. I still think America (and the west in general) is in deep turds, but in the end, the only thing that is truly sustaining and endures to the end is goodness, and the only true joy in life comes from God. Edited November 7, 2012 by Ash Wednesday
add Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 you know what [b]THEY[/b] say "you reap what you sow"
homeschoolmom Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Worst election of my lifetime. I'm speechless.
Cherie Posted November 7, 2012 Author Posted November 7, 2012 Well, for all those with such delicate sensibilities, I will say, "incredibly, utterly, and hopelessly ignorant and incapable of foresight" instead of "stupid". Which was what I obviously originally meant, but whatever.
i<3LSOP Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) [quote name='CherieMadame' timestamp='1352290550' post='2505645'] [color=#575757][font=Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][color=#282828]Well, for all those with such delicate sensibilities, I will say, [s]"incredibly, utterly, and hopelessly ignorant[/s] [s]and incapable of foresight" instead of [/s]"[i][b]stupid[/b][/i]"[s]. Which was what I obviously originally meant, but whatever.[/s][/color][/font][/color] [/quote] No, really Americans brought this upon themselves, and re-electing Obama for another four years is pretty stupid if you ask , me. Edit: Really those who re-elected Obama are more sinful and shallow... [size=1]and they're stupid. [/size] Edited November 7, 2012 by i<3LSOP
Cherie Posted November 7, 2012 Author Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='i<3LSOP' timestamp='1352291886' post='2505650'] No, really Americans brought this upon themselves, and re-electing Obama for another four years is pretty stupid if you ask , me. Edit: Really those who re-elected Obama are more sinful and shallow... [size=1]and they're stupid. [/size] [/quote] Yeah re-electing him is, in my opinion, a truly "stupid" decision, but I have to make the distinction not to call the people themselves "stupid" because I guess certain people think that's name-calling. I thought my original meaning/intention was obvious, but I guess not.
qfnol31 Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1352269882' post='2505565'] We shouldn't blame the president for being re-elected, nor should we blame Romney for not being elected. We shouldn't be blaming anybody, not even the Catholics that voted for Obama. They voted for him because of the crippling catechesis crisis that we have had over the past few decades. It's not time to blame or point fingers, it's time to pray and catechize so this doesn't happen again. Don't want another Obama-esque candidate to be elected? Start catechizing. When people know their faith they will vote their faith, clear and simple. [/quote]I disagree entirely. Most Catholics that I know who voted for Obama knew full well what the Church teaches and saw themselves at odds with the bishops. I don't think poor catechesis can really be to blame. CNN did exit polls in many of the swing states. Catholics overwhelmingly supported Romney in this election. In Virginia they voted for Romney 54% to Obama's 45%. In Florida it was 52% to 47%. Ohio was 54% to 44%! No, this election wasn't lost because Catholics are poorly educated. That the numbers changed so drastically is a testament to how well the bishops spoke this time. Sadly, many of those Catholics who voted for Obama knew well what they were doing and I don't think catechesis is to blame.
kujo Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 I am fully aware of what the Church teaches. I just disagree with it.
Papist Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 If one does not believe that the Eucharist is truly the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Savior and Lord Jesus Christ, then one can basically do the same for the rest after that.
Lil Red Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 spotted this on facebook this morning: [img]https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/530885_401722313227100_1953871113_n.jpg[/img]
Lil Red Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 http://www.theamericanconservative.com/how-to-explain-romneys-loss-to-shocked-conservatives/ [quote][b]Finally: you didn’t like Romney that much either. So are you really surprised?[/b] The entire Republican primary was a search for a “Not-Romney†candidate. In fact, you probably once contemplated voting for Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, or Rick Santorum precisely because Romney was a flip-flopper who invented Obamacare in Massachusetts. Just a year ago, my dear conservative friend, you were likely very much against the idea of Romney being your nominee. So how can you be surprised that other Americans never warmed to him as a choice for president?[/quote]
MissScripture Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 "It may be the will of Heaven that America shall suffer calamities still more wasting and distresses yet more dreadful. If this is to be the case, it will have this good effect, as least: it will inspire us with many virtues, which we have not, and correct many errors, follies, and vices, which threaten to disturb, dishonor, and destroy us. The furnace of afflication produces refinement, in states as well as individuals. And the new governments we are assuming, in every part, will require a purification from our vices, and an augmentation of our virtues or there will be no blessings... But I must submit all my hopes and fears to an overruling Providence; in which, unfashionable as the faith may be, I firmly believe" -JOHN ADAMS July 3, 1776.
dominicansoul Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 i can't look back at anytime in American history where we have ever been fully respectful of life and liberty. We just have to keep on chugging along. Sometimes I think the Lord allows the world to grow darker, just so our lights will shine brighter.... it's meant to inspire us and act toward a greater purpose...
homeschoolmom Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 My fellow Catholics: Please read today's mass readings. [url="http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings/110712.cfm"]http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings/110712.cfm[/url] Thanks.
Ed Normile Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1352263282' post='2505471'] this deserves to be posted here: Let nothing disturb you, Let nothing frighten you, All things are passing away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things Whoever has God lacks nothing; God alone suffices. – St. Teresa of Avila [/quote] All will happen in God's time, how long were his chosen people enslaved ? ed
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