Mark of the Cross Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Culpability for the action may be mitigated through intention, perhaps even entirely, but objectively speaking the action remains evil if the object is evil. I agree, I think! A while back there was a thread about this with the hypothetical case of Mr Godwin knocking at the door and you being given the choice to lie and say no there are no Jews hiding in the attic or saying yes and give support to the evil gestapo. Can't remember the outcome of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I agree, I think! A while back there was a thread about this with the hypothetical case of Mr Godwin knocking at the door and you being given the choice to lie and say no there are no Jews hiding in the attic or saying yes and give support to the evil gestapo. Can't remember the outcome of that! We argued that you gun down the Gestapo and go out in a blaze of glory. :proud: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark of the Cross Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 We argued that you gun down the Gestapo and go out in a blaze of glory. :proud: But you have to do the same as in the movies and let them go for their guns first so it's not murder and becomes a good win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 But you have to do the same as in the movies and let them go for their guns first so it's not murder and becomes a good win! Nah, I think it is entirely justified in that case to shoot first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark of the Cross Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Nah, I think it is entirely justified in that case to shoot first. I suppose! As long as the gun is paid for and not stolen from the dead body of a German soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I suppose! As long as the gun is paid for and not stolen from the dead body of a German soldier. I guess strictly speaking, if you kill a German soldier the gun rightly belongs to his surviving family. On the other hand, seizure of his weapons might be justified if we argue that by using it aggressively, he forfeited his right to it. I am leaning towards the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Everyone should use contraception if they're having sex and are not in a position to have and raise a(nother) child. Oh, and before someone says "oh, well the best way to make sure you don't have a baby is not to have sex in the first place," let me preemptively explode that argument. The best way to make sure I don't break my leg while skiing is to not go skiing in the first place, but that's not a realistic argument. What is the purpose of skiing? The purpose of sex is to unite two people and to pro-create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 ahhh young padawan, you shall learn to be a phatmass master yet! the degree of morality on all issues is of course always measured on a scale of 1 to Hiroshima on Phatmass :smokey: That is clearly Nagasaki. You're slipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Sex is like skiing? This changes everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 Sex is like skiing? This changes everything. I've always wondered why I was so bad at skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I've always wondered why I was so bad at skiing. I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 I don't get it. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Why doesn't she just use NFP? It's healthier for her than contraceptives anyway. And if she uses it right, there won't be any innocent children to abort. (Please God don't let mentioning NFP blow up in my face...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) I've always wondered why I was so bad at skiing. rotfl Edited November 29, 2012 by curiousing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark of the Cross Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Why doesn't she just use NFP? It's healthier for her than contraceptives anyway. And if she uses it right, there won't be any innocent children to abort. (Please God don't let mentioning NFP blow up in my face...) Engaging in sex purposely for the sex act but intentionally to avoid pregnancy = contraception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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