Why Have Tabernacles Disappeared? [resurrected]

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tabernacle on teh altar, some side chapel at St John Lateran

 

[Fidei Defensor]

tabernacle on teh altar, some side chapel at St John Lateran

 

Most of the Churches on Rome are set up this way, if I recall

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I think so too but its all a marble blur lol

[Apotheoun]

 

The tabernacle is always placed upon the eastern side of the altar in a Byzantine Church. In the picture above the tabernacle is visible just behind the processional cross.

[ToJesusMyHeart]

Apo, are you an Eastern Catholic or Orthodox? And do either of those use statue crucifixes?

[Apotheoun]

Apo, are you an Eastern Catholic or Orthodox? And do either of those use statue crucifixes?

Eastern (Melkite) Catholic. Statues in general are not used for veneration in either the Eastern Catholic or Eastern Orthodox Churches. Crucifixes should be iconic (i.e., two dimensional) if they are to conform to the canons of the Eastern Churches, but on occasion one may see a metal crucifix with a bas-relief image of Christ's body on it.

[cartermia]

In our parish the tabernacle is in a beautiful back altar (statues, cross, marble and gold), we have a back and low altar.

[Winchester]

[Apotheoun]

Here is a closeup image of the altar at Christ the Savior Cathedral in Moscow:

 

 

Visible on the altar are the Tabernacle, the Icon of the Cross, two hand crosses, the Book of the Gospel, and one of the two Diaconal Jerusalems.

[Apotheoun]

I forgot to mention the seven-branched candlestick, which is partially visible behind the altar/tabernacle.   :saint2:

[Apotheoun]

At the end of this brief video it is possible to see the tabernacle (and other sacred objects) on the altar at Christ the Savior Cathedral.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5MPZPnm0kI

[cartermia]

 This church is beautiful

 

 

 

 

 

[Apotheoun]

This church is beautiful

That is a very pretty reredos. Sadly, the Latin parish that is closest to my house ripped their altar piece out when they remodeled the Church a few years ago. Now they have a lovely holographic (wispy) image of Christ upon the cross, and the altar has been moved to the center of the building.

Edited September 14, 2013 by Apotheoun

[Ice_nine]

That is a very pretty reredos. Sadly, the Latin parish that is closest to my house ripped their altar piece out when they remodeled the Church a few years ago. Now they have a lovely holographic (wispy) image of Christ upon the cross, and the altar has been moved to the center of the building.

 

Whereabouts do you live?

[Apotheoun]

Whereabouts do you live?

The San Francisco Bay Area.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

The Latin parish nearest to my house still has the tabernacle in the center of the wall where the altar used to be, but it is shrouded in darkness during the liturgy. When I asked why the lights around the tabernacle were turned off I was told that they do not illuminate the area around it because the "tabernacle is not supposed to be a focus of the worship space while the community is making eucharist."

 

 

Only one light needs to be on next to the tabernacle, that little red one.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Our tabernacles are in the front of the Church. Not all parishes self -destructed.

 

I don't know of any parish in my diocese that doesn't have the tabernacle in a prominent spot elevated so all can see, except the cathedral, which is strange, the tabernacle there is in the wing and can't be seen by the majority of the cathedral. If this is wrong i hope that they move it some day soon.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Really? You need to come to Australia. The 'renovated' chapels are so stupid, it's like they decided to make the back corner extend out like 30 meters, so that that extension is the main part and the tabernacle is in the old section. You spend a good minute searching for the Tabernacle, and then it doesn't even look like one. It's more like a bird-cage, with all respect. Literally. And the Parramatta diocese cathedral is possibly one of the most ridiculous I have seen, being like an auditorium, the people facing each other on both sides, the altar below the people in the middle, and the tabernacle is outside the main church in a side chapel rather far away. Not to mention the modern 'art',

The wire thing you may think being the crown of thorns. No, it's actually 'The Holy Spirit'. Uhhh......

Sorry, gone on a rant. Does anyone sympathize?  *CRY*

 

 

 

 

Are these chapels? Perhaps chapels don't have the same conditions as a parish church. I have been to a few different parishes in australia and there all OK. Tabernacles elevated in a place of prominence in full view of the parish. Except st benedicts gold coast and the cathedral in my diocese. I don't mind the crucifix with the holy spirit but i don't know about the whole circular auditorium thing. I heard sydney is kicking goals in the holy catholic church when it comes to ministries, heaps to do that is Christ centered.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

I think half of what goes on here and is said about the holy catholic church is codswallop, i can't believe any branch of the holy catholic church in the modern age of Vatican spies and private jets could get away with anything so blasphemous for any extended period of time. If this is the state of the Holy catholic church in the u.s.a and possibly Sydney surely it must have the reigns pulled on it by the magesterium soon enough.

Edited September 16, 2013 by Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

I wouldn't doubt that some pictures, videos and documents are fraudulent and an attempt to dishearten those Catholic Christians whom are not so clued in. An act. A show. Fantasy. Make believe.

Edited September 16, 2013 by Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye