Seven77 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 We heterosexuals have been trashing marriage for years. We desecrate it with birth control, with porn, with having sex with that person before marriage. We are awash in failure heart break and the misery of divorce. This ruling just means that there will be more misery and heartbreak because I seriously doubt the homosexuals who "marry" will have any more success at it than heterosexual unions. Reminds me of this quote: "Those manning the barricades describe themselves as 'defending marriage.' That is a deep inaccuracy: marriage, as an institution, was surrendered quite some time ago. Today's battles are not about marriage but simply about dividing the spoils of its destruction. It is too late to defend marriage. Rather than being defended, marriage needs to be taught and lived." -Fr. Stephen Freeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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little2add Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Divorce and birth control via abortion has all but destroyed the foundation of marriage and the holy family. Today’s Supreme Court decision is just one more nail in the coffin. No good will or can come from it. Edited June 26, 2015 by little2add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Divorce and birth control via abortion has all but destroyed the foundation of marriage and the holy family. Today’s Supreme Court decision is just one more nail in the coffin. No good will or can come from it. If the government is the source of family values, we're screwed. The opinion Catholics have of the place the State has in society is borderline idolatrous.Stop looking to sociopaths for guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 By my calculations, that leaves 268.9 million Americans. Yes, they either didn't get the chance to vote, voted against or didn't vote in the states that voted for or against state constitutional amendments that defined marriage between one man and one woman. In a similar manner 5 unelected persons disenfranchised a great many people, more than 50 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 If the government is the source of family values, we're screwed. The opinion Catholics have of the place the State has in society is borderline idolatrous.Stop looking to sociopaths for guidance. Don't pervert the Church's traditional social teachings for your political beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 It was legalized, but not sacramentalized. A legal bond between two people and a piece of paper--not a sacramental bond between two people and God. I'm not discriminating either--this goes for every marriage outside of the Church. Heterosexual or homosexual. Doesn't matter. Contraception separated sex from procreation. Sex is no longer viewed as nature intended, but as a pleasure or activity. It led to the over objectification of women and the breakup of the family--and now, procreation has been separated from civil marriage. Marriage is no longer the foundation of a family, but a legal right.--and the family is no longer the foundation of society--but something that gets in the way of "progress". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 The bigger issue from a legal/constitutional standpoint is why did the SCOTUS even hear and decide on this case in the first place? Take a look at Marbury v. Madison. Why should every single issue be dictated to the entire country by nine unelected people in black robes? That's not a constitutional republic. It's tyranny. I would not go that far. Take a look at the point that Justice Scalia makes at the end of his dissent. The Supreme Court is not an institution that by itself has power to enforce anything. Any power that it has ultimately derives from us. We are bound by its decisions only to the extent that we choose to respect its decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 The bigger issue from a legal/constitutional standpoint is why did the SCOTUS even hear and decide on this case in the first place? they heard it because thats what judicial review is. The entire system is built around the principle of judicial review. today is a stay off the internet day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das8949 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I wonder if the Church and other christian communities will be forced to also provide same-sex marriages and if so will they serve jail time if they do not? No this morning it was explained that this is a legal decision about same sex couple rights and benefits assigned to a heterosexual couple. He further state churches do not have to perform ceremonies they are not comfortable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das8949 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I know what comes next, the legalization of same sex divorce! No it would just be a divorce. like gay marriage is no longer the verbiage. It is just marriage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 If the government is the source of family values, we're screwed. The opinion Catholics have of the place the State has in society is borderline idolatrous.Stop looking to sociopaths for guidance. I don't really give a fig with the government allows or does not allow. Traditional marriage is dead... It has been for a long time: divorce, abortion, pornography, drug abuse, etc. Has taken its toll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 No it would just be a divorce. like gay marriage is no longer the verbiage. It is just marriage It can't be divorce since it's not marriage. This is why we always refer to it as gay "marriage". Which in hindsight was stupid since it put those two words next to each other when they can't be since it's an oxymoron similar to the phrase, Pro-choice Catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Just have to add my lols to Anomoly's comments about how moderns are oh so much more thoughtful than people a couple hundred years ago. Believe it or not EVERY generation thinks that way about itself... One of my favorite professors at school had us read an essay full of similar gloats and guess the time and place of the author. The correct answer was the dawn of the Weimar Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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