Republican Debates

[StMichael]

21 hours ago, Peace said:

Maybe we will get some more hanging chad action this time around. Do they have computers yet?

If almost all of the Republican candidates are "RINO" would that not make people with other views the "Republicans in Name Only"?

Wasn't Trump a Democrat like 3 and a half years ago?

Wasn't he pro-abortion like 5 years ago? What if he changes his mind again?

The chad thing is another matter, completely.

The ruling class of the GOP wants a candidate they can control. Rubio ran as a Tea Party candidate and then immediately sided with the likes of McCain and Graham. This is the Bush establishment. Whether it be Kasich or Christie or any of the other names stated, they will work with the Bush establishment. 

The current candidates that will not include Trump, Cruz and Paul. Paul is barely in this race and has no ground campaign or funding. Trump, no he is a populist, but he is smashing down the Bush establishment like no one else has. I see him as clearing the path. Otherwise, the GOP would be mimicking the Democrats where they would simply be crowning Jeb Bush the candidate for a Bush vs. Clinton run.

Simply look at the recent events in DC, can you tell the difference between Paul Ryan and Nancy Pelosi or McConnell and Reid? I have never seen a lame duck President not be made lame by the opposition party. There is no opposition. 

So, if by some chance Trump got the nomination and won, the establishment knows full well they would have to clear out of DC and there are just so many jobs available on FoxNews for them to push their progressive agenda's (heck all of FoxNews is littered with Bushies).

It is time to take out the trash and restore this Republic.

[Socrates]

On 12/16/2015, 8:32:19, KnightofChrist said:

Rubio is another Bush Jr., no thanks.

Yeah, he's a lightweight neo-con wannabe.

I'm also no fan of his campaign's dishonest smear tactics, or of his blatant breaking of his promises to voters regarding amnesty.

(Oops, looks like St. Michael beat me to linking to that article, which Cruz mentioned in the debate.)

So, sorry, but I can't really join in the Rubio luv-fest on here.

[Socrates]

On 12/16/2015, 8:44:28, NadaTeTurbe said:

. . .

• Cruz: Agree with most of Trump's stupid policies but don't want your friends to ostracize you for supporting a racist, fascist, psychopathic lunatic? Then try me: Diet Trump! All the stupidity, none of the guilt! :D . . .

Actually, Cruz is arguably one of the most intelligent candidates in the field - at least with regards to the actual relevant issues.  I heard him in an interview, and he was very articulate and informed - unlike those jokers on tumblr.

Typical left/establishment drones who can't address any actual issues, but only call names.

In fact, that entire string of tmblr comments was pretty asinine and ignorant.  Why copy it here?  Nothing of your own to say?  Really, I know fifth-graders who could come up with more clever snark.  Geez.

11 hours ago, Maggyie said:

Trump despises the Constitution. 

If that's true, that would make him no different from the current "leadership" in Washington - in both parties.

The Left's and the GOP establishment's (are they even distinguishable anymore?) sudden new-found concern for the Constitution is hilarious.

If only it were sincere . . . 

On 12/16/2015, 5:16:12, Seven77 said:

A bunch of clowns, the whole lot of them. Rubio is least clownlike it seems.

We need Saint Hillary to save us all!

[Peace]

Hmm. Actually I think the Republican field is pretty good this year, at least in comparison to previous years. Walker, Jindall, Kasich, Christie, Bush, Rubio all better than Clinton.

As for Cruz, wasn't he the one who was behind shutting down the Federal Government and achieved absolutely nothing in the process? It seemed like a rather idiotic thing for them to attempt, there was no chance it would ever work, especially with a democratic president in office. I have trouble taking him seriously after that whole fiasco.

[bardegaulois]

4 hours ago, Peace said:

Hmm. Actually I think the Republican field is pretty good this year, at least in comparison to previous years. Walker, Jindall, Kasich, Christie, Bush, Rubio all better than Clinton.

As for Cruz, wasn't he the one who was behind shutting down the Federal Government and achieved absolutely nothing in the process? It seemed like a rather idiotic thing for them to attempt, there was no chance it would ever work, especially with a democratic president in office. I have trouble taking him seriously after that whole fiasco.

In case you haven't heard, Walker and Jindal have removed themselves from contention.

As for shutting down government spending, isn't Congress supposed to have the power of the purse? So if Cruz or any other Senator or Representative doesn't want to support Ottoman eunuch's exorbitant spending plans, then don't they (with approval of their Houses) have the right not to fund them?

Please quit talking about Ottoman eunuch (or whoever might succeed him) as a dictator.

[NadaTeTurbe]

4 hours ago, Socrates said:

In fact, that entire string of tmblr comments was pretty asinine and ignorant.  Why copy it here?  Nothing of your own to say?  Really, I know fifth-graders who could come up with more clever snark.  Geez.

Thank you for the name-calling, it's really appropriate on a christian forum 

[bardegaulois]

18 minutes ago, NadaTeTurbe said:

Thank you for the name-calling, it's really appropriate on a christian forum 

And posting silly memes made up by those who'd likely detest our faith is? Ten years ago, I thought ideology was a facile substitute for thought. Nowadays, I'm thinking memes have supplanted ideology in that regard. Let's watch ourselves here...

[NadaTeTurbe]

The post was made by a christian, pro-life, anti-feminist, republican. Not a catholic, still a christian.

The agressive tone used by Socrate, as well as the "you're not better than a fifth-grader" is inappropriate for an educated adult and a christian. I understand will not like this, I found it funny (and true) and posted here. If Socrate did not like it, there was other way to say it. 

[KnightofChrist]

4 hours ago, NadaTeTurbe said:

The post was made by a christian, pro-life, anti-feminist, republican. Not a catholic, still a christian.

The agressive tone used by Socrate, as well as the "you're not better than a fifth-grader" is inappropriate for an educated adult and a christian. I understand will not like this, I found it funny (and true) and posted here. If Socrate did not like it, there was other way to say it. 

Hypocritical.

[Ice_nine]

play nice boys and girls. If you're going to bicker and berate each other don't do it over something you ultimately have no real control over, like national politics.

[Archaeology cat]

On 12/16/2015, 8:50:53, Peace said:

Maybe we will get some more hanging chad action this time around. Do they have computers yet?

We're so cool we have scan-tron now. In KY, I used computers to vote. In FL, I get to darken circles. 

[PhuturePriest]

The love in this thread is abundant. 

[KnightofChrist]

15 minutes ago, PhuturePriest said:

The love in this thread is abundant. 

Again, hypocritical. The love died when the words "insane psychopath, racist, fascist, psychopathic lunatic, oh-so-clever references to my possession of a vagina" were posted and propped.

[StMichael]

11 hours ago, bardegaulois said:

In case you haven't heard, Walker and Jindal have removed themselves from contention.

As for shutting down government spending, isn't Congress supposed to have the power of the purse? So if Cruz or any other Senator or Representative doesn't want to support Ottoman eunuch's exorbitant spending plans, then don't they (with approval of their Houses) have the right not to fund them?

Please quit talking about Ottoman eunuch (or whoever might succeed him) as a dictator.

The House of Representatives have the power of the purse. No congressman or senator can "shut down the government" only the President can by his refusal to sign a bill.

[StMichael]

16 hours ago, Peace said:

Hmm. Actually I think the Republican field is pretty good this year, at least in comparison to previous years. Walker, Jindall, Kasich, Christie, Bush, Rubio all better than Clinton.

As for Cruz, wasn't he the one who was behind shutting down the Federal Government and achieved absolutely nothing in the process? It seemed like a rather idiotic thing for them to attempt, there was no chance it would ever work, especially with a democratic president in office. I have trouble taking him seriously after that whole fiasco.

A senator cannot shut down the government, only the President can do that by not signing into law a bill. That said, the confusion over government shut down is laughable as it only shuts down "non-essential workers" while still funding over 80% of the government. So when the president said military wouldn't get paid, that was a flat out lie. Same with SS.

[Peace]

13 hours ago, bardegaulois said:

In case you haven't heard, Walker and Jindal have removed themselves from contention.

As for shutting down government spending, isn't Congress supposed to have the power of the purse? So if Cruz or any other Senator or Representative doesn't want to support Ottoman eunuch's exorbitant spending plans, then don't they (with approval of their Houses) have the right not to fund them?

Please quit talking about Ottoman eunuch (or whoever might succeed him) as a dictator.

I knew they dropped out, but thanks.

As for defunding Obamacare, if you can do it go ahead. But there was never a snowballs chance in hell that was ever going to happen, which  made shutting down the government an idiots move. I bet even Cruz himself will admit to that blunder.

[StMichael]

2 hours ago, Peace said:

I knew they dropped out, but thanks.

As for defunding Obamacare, if you can do it go ahead. But there was never a snowballs chance in hell that was ever going to happen, which  made shutting down the government an idiots move. I bet even Cruz himself will admit to that blunder.

The government shuts down every day at 5pm and doesn't reopen until 9am the next day. In fact, the government is shut down as I write and won't be open again until Monday. What will we do without the government being open?!?!?!

Obamacare is #1 UNCONSTITUTIONAL. There is no provision in the Constitution that allows the federal government to force commerce on a citizen. PERIOD.

#2, it is true that a full repeal could not happen with Obama sitting in the executive branch, but the Republican Congress, that was swept into power in 2010 elections, was able to cut off 85% of the law. They did not do it. The the 2014 elections swept in a Republican Senate, and they were to do it (which is what Cruz was doing) and the RINOS once again did not represent the people.

With the move yesterday and today by both houses, It will take conservative judicial appointments to bring this in front of to strike it down. Barring that a convention of the states would be able to undo this unconstitutional law.

[Basilisa Marie]

LOL you're welcome guys. 

 

[dUSt]

The sad thing about all of the nominees is that I don't trust any of them EXCEPT for Trump. You'd be surprised how far trust goes--because even if you agree with just 10% of what he says, it's better than the 0% you agree with from the other guys due to the lack of trust.

[PhuturePriest]

Just now, dUSt said:

The sad thing about all of the nominees is that I don't trust any of them EXCEPT for Trump. You'd be surprised how far trust goes--because even if you agree with just 10% of what he says, it's better than the 0% from the guys you don't trust.

If by "trust" you mean you trust him to run this nation into the ground, then I have trust in him, too.