Aloysius Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 correction: can't call it abuse unless they do it after october, because it was allowed up until now under that trial run basis thing.
rachael Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 i know it makes everyone else happy, but it disappoints me.
M.SIGGA Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 q: why can't the priest say the "mass never ends" statement at the end?
qfnol31 Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 [quote name='M.SIGGA' date='Jul 6 2004, 11:50 PM'] q: why can't the priest say the "mass never ends" statement at the end? [/quote] It's bad Theology, the Mass has ended. Mostly because, I think, that the Sacrifice is over. The Mass (including the prayers before and after) is the highest prayer of the Church. One Mass is worth more than all the other prayers by people on Earth, in Purgatory, and in Heaven combined throughout all of history and forever to come! It makes no sense, therefore, that we would still be living out this great Sacrifice, but rather that it has ended. I dunno, that's probably confusing.
Aloysius Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 because we're a universal Church and we dismiss all of our Masses the same way "The Mass has ended, go in peace" When we're in Rome, we do as the Romans do, and respond to "The Mass has ended, go in peace" with "Thanks be to God" Pax Amorque Christi
M.SIGGA Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 thanks both of you Aloyius I think you hit it on the head.
voiciblanche Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 [quote name='crusader1234' date='Jul 6 2004, 10:35 PM'] kind of reminds me of when we were little during the mass kids were invited to come sit at the altar around the priest while he did his homilies. [/quote] I can't stand it when they do that. It always ends up being a specifically-for-children homily. Which is fine if you're five years old, but if you're not, and you go to Mass to enrich your Faith and gain the strength you need to resist the evil one and to receive our Lord, etc., etc., hearing a homily that is almost impossible to do so because of the screaming of the kids that is about how to obey your mummy and dada and give your extra pocket money to the poor in the poor box... is not very helpful, even for a tween. Sorry, I kinda rambled there, but that's how I feel. -_-
Aloysius Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 The thing is, they're not doing it during the homily. I actually wouldn't have a problem with it if it was the homily, i tend to like those where the priest is talking down to the little children and you have to humble yourself to listen to a message that your intellect tells you you already know and be as a little child listening once again to the simple message. But yeah, I wouldn't quite have a problem if it was during the homily, but during the very high point of the Holy Mass-- the Consecration, i have always seen it as unnecesary clutter. Pax Amorque Christi
littleflower+JMJ Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 im glad that they will no longer be able to do those things.
Philippe Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 i need a link! i want to show my lifeteen director! im not a fan of the altar gather because it turns into a party and girls dress immodestly and it leads you to sin while bread and wine is being transubstantiated into the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity or Jesus Christ our Savior very frusterating... i had an argument with my mom over it
xxjjtuffxx Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 i dont like that, i really thought that the alter gather was an awsome experience, i think that its really lame that theyre gonna take it away, but at my mass we say "thanks be to God" so thats ok, but i really enjoyed seeing all the teens up at the altar gather, it was kool
traichuoi Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 [quote name='lifeteener' date='Jul 6 2004, 11:30 PM'] i need a link! i want to show my lifeteen director! im not a fan of the altar gather because it turns into a party and girls dress immodestly and it leads you to sin while bread and wine is being transubstantiated into the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity or Jesus Christ our Savior very frusterating... i had an argument with my mom over it [/quote] there is no link...Fr. Dale will be spreading the news soon...
Aloysius Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 with all do respect, whether or not you think it's lame doesn't mean anything at all. the fact is that the priest should be the only one on the Altar for the consecration and everyone else should be humbly down off of the altar preferably kneeling. the majority of faithful Catholics out there do not like seeing the teens up there, but rather find it distracting (at least from nearly every real faithful Catholic i've ever spoken to)
Aloysius Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 by the way: WELCOME TO PHATMASS! I'm dumb and didn't happen to notice you're still a lurker... don't take any of that too harshly or nothing. Sometimes the style of discussion turns people off because people tend to like to call what they see as a spade a spade, you know be strait forward and all. don't let me scare you away. I just really dislike teens on the altar, and not only that: i really like everyone being down off of the altar kneeling in unison worshipping the Lord. The teens IMHO shouldn't be seperated off and cluttered around the altar. Peace and Love of Christ be with you ~Aloysius
Philippe Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 i emailed him... as soon as i get a response ill let u all know
BeenaBobba Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 Personally, I'm glad that these abuses have been dealt with. I've always liked LifeTeen, but it's always been on a conditional basis. I'd always be like, "I like LifeTeen, but I can't stand the liturgical abuse." I'm happy that the liturgical abuse will no longer be allowed. I, personally, thought they took away from LifeTeen as an organization. LifeTeen's pretty cool in that it gets teens excited about Catholicism, and it'll be even cooler now. God bless, Jen
traichuoi Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jul 6 2004, 11:56 PM'] with all do respect, whether or not you think it's lame doesn't mean anything at all. the fact is that the priest should be the only one on the Altar for the consecration and everyone else should be humbly down off of the altar preferably kneeling. the majority of faithful Catholics out there do not like seeing the teens up there, but rather find it distracting (at least from nearly every real faithful Catholic i've ever spoken to) [/quote] hmmm, i think it's actually more than that too Al. I believe the biggest deal is that the teens are separated from the community which makes it wrong. Also, in most churches, it causes the teens to not be able to kneel while the rest of the congregation kneels. but yes, we can't just do or not do something according to lameness but you don't just do something just because the majority of faithful Catholics like it either...that's not a reason.
xxjjtuffxx Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 with all do respect, whether or not you think it's lame doesn't mean anything at all. the fact is that the priest should be the only one on the Altar for the consecration and everyone else should be humbly down off of the altar preferably kneeling. the majority of faithful Catholics out there do not like seeing the teens up there, but rather find it distracting (at least from nearly every real faithful Catholic i've ever spoken to) with all do respect dude, i go to a mass that is labled LIFE TEEN Mass this mass is completely out of the way of the other masses, i dont know if uve noticed...but at Life Teen Mass, there tends to be teens in the majority. This is something that brings teens together, and although u may disagree with me, its a really powerful thing to OTHER ppl than urself......... so do u get how i fEEL yet? in other words THIS ISNT GOOD NEWS TO OTHER PPL!
xxjjtuffxx Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 oh yeah, i forgot to mention SO WHAT IF IM A LURKER!!!!! u have to start somewhere ya? so i just started
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