Sicker And Sicker....

[ironmonk]

[b]Spears in Bollywood Film? [/b]

Pop star Britney Spears is reportedly in talks to star in the biggest budgeted Bollywood movie in cinema history.

Producers want the "Toxic" star to appear opposite Asian actresses Rani Mukherjee, Aishwarya Rai and Pretty Zinta in the story, about Indian girls at Columbia University who fall in love with an all-American - played by Spears - who helps them adjust to western culture in New York.

The movie is set to shock traditional Bollywood film fans with its explicit lesbian scenes.



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Doesn't it just seem like our society is running as fast as it can toward the apocalypse?

I wish parents would pay attention to the stuff their kids listened to, then people with her influence couldn't get away with that kind of trash.

Pray.

God Bless,
ironmonk

[Lil Red]

eww. if she gets enough backlash, though, maybe she'll pull out.

[MC Just]

[quote name='ironmonk' date='Jul 15 2004, 02:55 PM']
Doesn't it just seem like our society is running as fast as it can toward the apocalypse?

I wish parents would pay attention to the stuff their kids listened to, then people with her influence couldn't get away with that kind of trash.

[/quote]
Yeah they sure are! As for parents no. i've been hearing things like "they have their own choices" "They have free will" I dont see kids disciplined anymore. All I see is parents either spoiling them or they just let them do whatever. It's so very sad.

[conservativecatholic]

[quote name='ironmonk' date='Jul 15 2004, 02:55 PM'] Doesn't it just seem like our society is running as fast as it can toward the apocalypse?

[/quote]
You bet it does! It's kind of scary.

[Quietfire]

[quote]We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self esteem.[/quote]


Thats why I use duct tape when I babysit.

Peace

Edited July 15, 2004 by Quietfire

[conservativecatholic]

[quote name='MC Just' date='Jul 15 2004, 03:56 PM'] Yeah they sure are! As for parents no. i've been hearing things like "they have their own choices" "They have free will" I dont see kids disciplined anymore. All I see is parents either spoiling them or they just let them do whatever. It's so very sad. [/quote]
I totally agree, but some parents take the term discipline out of hand. I hate physical abuse! My mother and I tell parents in the grocery store to stop hitting their kids. I absolutely HATE abuse. I cringe at the sight of it. Parents need to be firm and ask where their kids are going. They need to teach them and be stern when necessary. You then have those who just flat-out spoil their kids which is absolutely ridculous. Parents need to be more responsible.

[Sammy Blaze]

NNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not BOLLYWOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!





On a serious note.... yes society is a very sad sight

~S.

[ladybug]

Why am I not surprised?

[conservativecatholic]

Alexander Tyler, (in his 1770 book, 'Cycle of Democracy' )

"...The average of the world's great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to
complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage."

What's next for the USA??

[ironmonk]

[quote name='conservativecatholic' date='Jul 15 2004, 09:12 PM'] I totally agree, but some parents take the term discipline out of hand. I hate physical abuse! My mother and I tell parents in the grocery store to stop hitting their kids. I absolutely HATE abuse. I cringe at the sight of it. Parents need to be firm and ask where their kids are going. They need to teach them and be stern when necessary. You then have those who just flat-out spoil their kids which is absolutely ridculous. Parents need to be more responsible. [/quote]
Spanking a child is NOT physical abuse.


God Bless,
ironmonk

[crusader1234]

Spanking with the hand on the rear end once or twice without extreme force is not abuse. Hitting a kid anywhere else or using a strap or stick is abuse. Hitting a child younger than 5 or older than 8 is abuse. Thats just my opinion though.

As for this movie, theres one problem: Aishwarya Rai refused to appear nude in any movies, nevermind making out with Britney Spears in explicit scenes.

Another problem: Aishwarya Rai is so good looking she would make Britney Spears look like a dog with hemmerhoids.

[catholicguy]

[quote]Spanking with the hand on the rear end once or twice without extreme force is not abuse. Hitting a kid anywhere else or using a strap or stick is abuse. Hitting a child younger than 5 or older than 8 is abuse. Thats just my opinion though.[/quote]

I know this is just your opinion, but this is madness. You may as well accuse every Catholic school before 1965 of abusing children. Children are taught discipline by not only being spanked but by being beaten. I got the belt from my grandfather when I was still in the crib (I think I was two years old); I do not think that this is the best form of punishment for a child that young, but it is certainly not wrong. My dad gave me the belt, too, when I got older and until I was about 10 or so (it should've been longer, and I could've avoided my "pagan" years in middle school and early high school). We never actually got the buckle, but my dad always threatened with it. He got the buckle regularly, and he is the most self-disciplined, controlled, and patient person I know. I am one of the few disciplined people that I know (other than Traditional Catholics; well, I may be the only one). The only way to punish a young child is to spank him. Spanking with a belt, or a stick, or a paddle, or a spoon is not abuse. This is discipline. You obviously did not go to Catholic school before the 60s (neither did I, of course).

[Good Friday]

[quote name='catholicguy']The only way to punish a young child is to spank him. Spanking with a belt, or a stick, or a paddle, or a spoon is not abuse. This is discipline. You obviously did not go to Catholic school before the 60s (neither did I, of course).[/quote]
I just don't even know what to say to that. I think I'll go with the, "Have you [i]heard[/i] of Jesus?" response...

[catholicguy]

Apparently no one in the entire world had heard of him until the 70s then. What kind of statement is that? This is something supported not only by Church history but also by the Bible itself and the history of the human race! What you believe is called the "Hippie figure" of Jesus. This is the belief that He simply walked the earth preaching "peace and love" and "I'm a lover not a fighter". This kind of image is not only erroneous, but it is blasphemous. Discipline is a basic tenet of society itself. All the Saints disciplined themselves by strict physical punishments (imagine how much more a disobedient child deserves it!). The kind of nonsense "non-violent" means of achieving discipline are not only unsuccessful, but they are erroneous. It is wrong to teach children that physical force and punishment is not justice. We see this justice even for adults by the death penalty. We see this taught in the Bible "eye will go for eye and tooth for tooth". We see this throughout Church history not only by the example of the Saints upon but also by all parents until Modernism entered the Church and feminism (as well as other radical forms of liberalism) entered the world. This lack of discipline (which is caused in part by anti-corporal punishment tactics) has been one of the major causes in the downfall of society.

[ironmonk]

Spanking doesn't always have to be used, but if the threat is given, it must be followed through. A child can be spanked and it not physically hurt at all, but they learn humility.

Around 2 to about 9 or 10, by 9 or 10 other means of punishment might work better because they can now reason.

Sometimes a smack across the mouth (not hard) but enough to startle is needed.

I will discipline the way my parents did me. It worked very well.[list]
[*]Never hit a child in anger.
[*]Make the child "think about what they did" in the bathroom and wait for the spanking
[*]Hit "only" on the butt, except when a slight smack on the face is needed, only enough force to startle, not enough to leave a mark
[*]Explain why the child is getting spanked
[*]Tell them it's going to hurt you more than it will hurt them
[*]Tell them you are doing it because you love them and want them to be good
[*]Hug and kiss them afterward and ask them if they'll be good from now on
[/list]

God Bless,
ironmonk

[1337 k4th0l1x0r]

[quote name='catholicguy' date='Jul 16 2004, 03:27 AM'] Apparently no one in the entire world had heard of him until the 70s then. What kind of statement is that? This is something supported not only by Church history but also by the Bible itself and the history of the human race! What you believe is called the "Hippie figure" of Jesus. This is the belief that He simply walked the earth preaching "peace and love" and "I'm a lover not a fighter". This kind of image is not only erroneous, but it is blasphemous. Discipline is a basic tenet of society itself. All the Saints disciplined themselves by strict physical punishments (imagine how much more a disobedient child deserves it!). The kind of nonsense "non-violent" means of achieving discipline are not only unsuccessful, but they are erroneous. It is wrong to teach children that physical force and punishment is not justice. We see this justice even for adults by the death penalty. We see this taught in the Bible "eye will go for eye and tooth for tooth". We see this throughout Church history not only by the example of the Saints upon but also by all parents until Modernism entered the Church and feminism (as well as other radical forms of liberalism) entered the world. This lack of discipline (which is caused in part by anti-corporal punishment tactics) has been one of the major causes in the downfall of society. [/quote]
I Agree with your comment on the hippie Jesus. I'm sure Jesus wasn't all flower power when He entered the Temple and let the money changers know how He felt.

I remember reading the book [u]Wild at Heart[/u] a couple years ago and it commented on how Jesus wasn't always nice. Being nice is not always being good. If I see a friend of mine committing a crime, I can be nice to him and not report him, but I'm surely not taking the good and right course of action. He used words and action to show discipline to others.

I do agree that the "Hippie Jesus" is what most people, especially non-Christians and lapsed Christians, think of Jesus. They use this to believe that Jesus would have allowed practicing homosexuals and fornicators to be disciples and that He was okay with women's ordination because, "It's a free country, man."

However, I do think that children shouldn't be abused and that non-violence should be the first course of action. As far as the death penalty and "eye for an eye," even Jesus tells us that isn't the best policy as he says "turn the other cheek." Prisoners shouldn't be executed out of punishment, but should only be executed in situations where they're a great harm to society left alive yet still imprisoned. When people really need to be disciplined, it's right, but the punishment should never be violent for the sake of being violent. There is a difference between spanking a child out of discipline and spanking a child out of violence.

Edited July 16, 2004 by 1337 k4th0l1x0r

[Azriel]

My humble opinion:

Simple swats on the butt with your hand can be necessary to keep a child away from something dangerous or threatening or to get their attention.

There most certainly non violent ways to discipline a child and done in the right way they can be very effective.

I got my share of spankings, but was never hit with anything other than my Mother's hand, and I turned out just fine. (at least I think, I did )

Just my .02.

[MC Just]

PROVERBS


23:13-14

13 Withhold not chastisement from a boy; if you beat him with the rod, he will not die.
14Beat him with the rod, and you will save him from the nether world.

[MC Just]

dont let american social services trick you.

[ironmonk]

[quote name='Azriel' date='Jul 16 2004, 10:55 AM'] My humble opinion:

Simple swats on the butt with your hand can be necessary to keep a child away from something dangerous or threatening or to get their attention.

There most certainly non violent ways to discipline a child and done in the right way they can be very effective.

I got my share of spankings, but was never hit with anything other than my Mother's hand, and I turned out just fine. (at least I think, I did )

Just my .02. [/quote]
Different kids need different tactics.

At later ages, a belt might be needed.... I got the belt a few times, I needed it... I wish I never laughed at the hand... I should have faked it... the belt... OUCH! my dad had a 44 inch leather belt.


God Bless,
ironmonk