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Guest Aluigi
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God supports ALL WAR? wow.. that's nuts. So God supported Hitler invading Poland? God would support it if a country right now just invaded a weaker country and enslaved it's people? certainly not, therefore God does not support all wars.

toledo_jesus
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flip, we don't live in an ideal world where the best and holiest men are in positions of power and only good will be done. We live in a world that is rife with evil and death...we have to judge who is closer to the mark. Even if he falls short, he's better than the other choice. Bush is better than Kerry because he is less supportive of abortion. It's a hard situation, but an easy decision. Think like a general of an army...you take casualties to accomplish or further your campaign. This is a step in the right direction. Lessening the amount of murder is a step towards ending the murder.

Trust that God will sort it all out in the end. For now we have to struggle against what the world tells us.

Guest Aluigi
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if you're standing in a pile of manure, it is a good thing to take one step out of it first. if you try to jump out, both feet at the same time, you are more likely to fall flat on your face.

we are in a pile of manure (legalized baby murder)
to vote for bush would be to put one foot out
to vote for kerry would be to stay in and sink deeper
to vote for a third party who is 100% against abortion would be to fall flat on your face (you've really made no impact)

I personally think our best course of action is to take a step out.

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I dont think It's a mortal sin but come on would you really want to Vote for a guy who is against his and YOUR belifes?

IcePrincessKRS
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[quote name='Aluigi' date='Oct 6 2004, 06:45 PM'] God supports ALL WAR? wow.. that's nuts. So God supported Hitler invading Poland? God would support it if a country right now just invaded a weaker country and enslaved it's people? certainly not, therefore God does not support all wars. [/quote]
I don't think Iacobus was referring to war AND the death penalty, I think he just meant the death penalty. The first post confused me a little, too, but in his second post he only mentions the death penalty. If I'm wrong I'm sure he'll clarify, but thats how I understood his statements.

IcePrincessKRS
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[quote name='J.R.D' date='Oct 7 2004, 12:31 AM'] I dont think It's a mortal sin but come on would you really want to Vote for a guy who is against his and YOUR belifes? [/quote]
To vote for someone so completely pro-abortion/euthanasia/etc. as Kerry is most definately grave matter, and (I think I'm safe in saying) in the case for most everyone on this phorum would be a mortal sin. To vote for someone pro-choice you MUST have a reason that is proportionate in its gravity to equal or outweigh the evil. I honestly have not heard anyone give a reason that is proportionately grave enough to vote for someone as vehemently pro-death as John Kerry. The only way I could justify a vote for him is if the opposing candidate were MORE pro-death than he is, and thats not the case.

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