track2004 Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 Just from an economics standpoint, the minimum wage will almost always be below the poverty line no matter what the number is ($5.15 to $7.00 to $15.00). If a person has to make $7.00 an hour at a fast food joint, either the place will close or the prices will skyrocket to cover overhead. This will happen at every level of employment, causing, in the end, the value of the Mcjob to have the same value it has now.
Azriel Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 [url="http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/briefingpapers_bp151"]Interesting[/url]
PedroX Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 so, what about all the people who made mistakes early in life, and have few/no skills? What about areas of the country that are experiencing economic depression? If minimum wage is not the answer, what is? What is a truly Catholic economic point of view? If your answer is simply " get a job", don't bother posting it, I've heard it before. peace...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 [quote name='J.R.D' date='Oct 30 2004, 03:21 AM'] ....there is no such thing as a poor republican..... [/quote] Comon now, that is absurd. Don't eat up the "class warfare" propaganda. [quote]With kerry in office yea minum wage will go up and mess carp up but at least there will be more jobs and LESS STRESS ON THE POOR[/quote] Actually, there will be less jobs and more poor. Minimum wage sends jobs overseas.
Guest Aluigi Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 PedroX, it seems we don't exactly have a full answer. But we have shown that minimum wage raising isn't a good answer. The only possible thing is to try to help these people get a job that pays higher than minimum wage. I'm not sure how, but that's better than raising minimum wage and screwing over other people.
J.R.D Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 thedude It's true there IS NO SUCH THING AS A POOR REPUBLICAN minumum wage dose not send jobs overseas .... what about the Jobs that went a Year after bush was in office?
cmotherofpirl Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 [quote name='J.R.D' date='Oct 30 2004, 02:23 PM'] thedude It's true there IS NO SUCH THING AS A POOR REPUBLICAN minumum wage dose not send jobs overseas .... what about the Jobs that went a Year after bush was in office? [/quote] lol well I'm poor and I vote Republican Bush is not in charge of the fortune 500 companies and where they send jobs. However Is Mr Kerry going to bring all the Heinz plant jobs BACK from overseas? sure...
Guest Aluigi Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 did you read the first post here? any of the other posts? this thread is about nothing other than if the minimum wage is increased it will be harmful not helpful to everyone. if you can't argue against that point, don't post in here
J.R.D Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 (edited) I know Its about minumum wage and carp but still Jobs have to do with it .... You know Jobs r the ones who pay the minumum wage ..... and dont get an attitude with me Edited October 30, 2004 by J.R.D
cmotherofpirl Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 (edited) Play nice you both have good points. Most jobs start above minimum wage even at fast food restaurants. Edited October 30, 2004 by cmotherofpirl
Guest Aluigi Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 please, i'm just trying to keep the thread on topic. all the evidence that has been proposed here indicates that raising the minimum wage will decrease jobs and possibly cause more inflation. that means raising the minimum wage is not a good idea to help the economy because it will hurt the economy, and hurt REAL PEOPLE too.
J.R.D Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 But hes a democrat .... thats not what democrats do ... my family is a proven fact
Guest Aluigi Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 ? that's in his platform that he'd raise the minimum wage isn't it? we're talking policies, not party prejudices. a policy of increasing the minimum wage hurts jobs. citing your family does not make any proven fact. don't just choose the democrat because you think democrats always are better with the economy or with jobs. kerry's plan has no substance, raising the minimum wage will hurt the economy not help it.
cmotherofpirl Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 Who is a democrat and what don't they do?
J.R.D Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 Kerry is a democrat and they dont help themselves like republicans do
J.R.D Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 not just my family but all of Northside, southside, and west side and every poor little cities ... Then wehen a democrat hit office everything was kool all over again
qfnol31 Posted October 30, 2004 Author Posted October 30, 2004 Clinton didn't help himself to anything? Highest pay rate of any retired President. Stopped up all of LAX one day for two hours for a haircut... I'll keep going.
J.R.D Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 What do you mean he didnt help himslef to anything???? Im confused
qfnol31 Posted October 30, 2004 Author Posted October 30, 2004 That's my point. You said no Democrats help themselves to something. I proved that to be false.
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