Hypothetical Question about Mary

[Quietfire]

I would prolly say..(without voting yet)

Hail Mary, full of Grace. The Lord is with thee, and [i]in[/i] thee, and boy oh boy...Girl you got it goin on! HOOWA!!




Im sorry, that just popped into my head and I had to share it with ya'll.
No disrepect.





Pax

[Quietfire]

Oh, and forgot to remark...

If I [i]knew[/i] that she was carrying God,
why wouldnt I fall to my knees? (and maybe still make that comment)

Im not worshipping her.

Edited November 26, 2004 by Quietfire

[mulls]

yea, i would say that if you recognized that Mary was pregnant with your Savior, it would be legit to bow down and worship Him......emphasis on *Him*


haha i wonder what Mary's reaction would be to this? i bet she would feel real awkward with someone on their knees in front of her, but not really because of her.

[Quietfire]

it wouldnt phase her one bit Mulls.

[Guest Aluigi]

hehe sure sure. while Mary was on earth and people did this to her (the Magi, for instance) I'm sure she felt awkward. but 2004 years later, she's gotten used to it.

because that's what Catholics do when they pray a Hail Mary. Notice that's taken from the Angel Gabriel's words from the moment of the incarnation, the first time Jesus was within Mary's womb. The legend of Eulalia from about Anno Domini 304 has Mary saying "Let me tell you that when you greet me with the Angelic Salutation I experience a great thrill of joy, especially when you say slowly the words Dominus Tecum (the Lord is with you), because it is then that I feel my Son within me even as he was with me, true God and true Man, when he consented to be born of me for the sake of sinners"
of course, this is a legend, a tradition, but it has something important to teach us. Mary is in heaven (we would say body and soul, but that's not an important point of contention right now) in the presence of Jesus. To pray the Hail Mary, expecially considering the clause "Dominus Tecum" is to contemplate Jesus' presence with her. Is anything wrong with that? It's like kneeling in front of the pregnant Virgin Mary.

[Quietfire]

Wow, we all (Catholics and Non-Catholics) are in agreement on a specific topic here?????!!!!!



tacos, so very tasty and good for you, ARE ON ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fool4Christ]

Sorry if this is wrong, but I fall on my knees to gaze at my baby brother (not in worship of course, but in adoration). In front of God Incarnate within Mary's womb, kneeling would hardly seem enough!

[CatholicCrusader]

[quote name='mulls' date='Nov 26 2004, 05:13 PM'] if we were in the presence of God, say in heaven for example, we would instinctively fall on our knees and worship God, no question about it (in my mind). [/quote]
What about that protestant song.. how does it go: will I dance or to my knees will I fall?

Ha..

[Balthazor]

nice

[Guest Aluigi]

lol i mentioned that at least twice "will I dance for you Jesus, or to my knees would I fall" I like that song even if it's protestant so there :nanny: unless you're mimicking me.

Fool4Christ, the falling to knees here is meant to denote worship. what exactly are you doing when falling to your knees to your baby brother? thanking God for the beauty of the young life perhaps? admiring God's handiwork perhaps? you are in worship of God there. adoration is worship, you are contemplating a work of God.

Edited November 27, 2004 by Aluigi

[phatcatholic]

i would fall to my knees in front of the pregnant Mother of God for the same reason that i fall to my knees before the tabernacle: because i am within the vicinity of my Lord and Savior. kneeling before the tabernacle is no more an act of worshipping [i]the tabernacle[/i] than kneeling before the pregnant Mary is an act of worshipping [i]Mary[/i]. it is instead an act of worship towards my God. Mary was a tabernacle for Jesus Christ, truly present........just as tabernacles in Catholic Churches hold the body of Christ, truly present.

i cannot help but fall on my face before Him.........

Edited November 28, 2004 by phatcatholic

[mulls]

do you fall on your knees in front of the mirror, being that you're a temple of the living God?

[Dave]

[quote name='mulls' date='Nov 29 2004, 08:40 PM'] do you fall on your knees in front of the mirror, being that you're a temple of the living God? [/quote]
Jesus isn't present in us in quite the same way that He was present in Our Lady's womb. He was PHYSICALLY present there.

[Quietfire]

just as he's present in the Tabernacle.

[Colleen]

[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Nov 27 2004, 11:07 PM']i would fall to my knees in front of the pregnant Mother of God for the same reason that i fall to my knees before the tabernacle: because i am within the vicinity of my Lord and Savior. kneeling before the tabernacle is no more an act of worshipping [i]the tabernacle[/i] than kneeling before the pregnant Mary is an act of worshipping [i]Mary[/i]. it is instead an act of worship towards my God. Mary was a tabernacle for Jesus Christ, truly present........just as tabernacles in Catholic Churches hold the body of Christ, truly present.

i cannot help but fall on my face before Him.........[/quote]
Wow, beautiful post, phatcatholic! I completely agree.

[CatholicCrusader]

[quote name='mulls' date='Nov 29 2004, 08:40 PM'] do you fall on your knees in front of the mirror, being that you're a temple of the living God? [/quote]
That's the kind of confusion you see with Protestants in understanding God's omnipresence and the difference in His Real Presence. Just as He is truly Present in the Blessed Sacrament, so would He be in the womb of the Blessed Virgin. His presence in each of us is akin to His omnipresence.

[Theoketos]

[quote name='mulls' date='Nov 29 2004, 07:40 PM'] do you fall on your knees in front of the mirror, being that you're a temple of the living God? [/quote]
Maybe if I was Jim Cavizal....JK

[amarkich]

I would fall on my knees before Our Lord or Our Lady pregnant with Our Lord or Our Lady by herself (or any Angel or Saint for that matter). For any prot who is offended by those comments, try this:

"And the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of the city. And seeing them, he rose up and went to meet them: and worshipped prostrate to the ground" Genesis xix.1

There are plenty more instances in the Bible where men knelt and bowed down to Angels (and other men), but I think this suffices.

[Mr. Cube]

What about the scene in [u]Crime and Punishment[/u] where Katerina kisses her daughter Sonya's feet after Sonya just sold her body to buy a meal for their family? I wouldn't accuse Katerina of idolatry for that. So what should I do for the sinless virgin mother of my savior? Kneel? Is that even enough?

[Antonius]

Mos def I'd genuflect to Mary pregnant with Jesus! Man, I'd even genuflect if it was Mary without Jesus! I mean, come on, she's Mary!