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Do you accept that the RCC could possibly be wrong, and Christ still is true, and nature is true?  

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Marie-Therese

[quote name='Winchester' date='03 June 2010 - 02:06 PM' timestamp='1275588410' post='2123230']
I think that was more of a nipping, as opposed to actual mastication.
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I concur. Puppy bite, maybe. Shark attack with resulting loss of limb? Not quite to that level.

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Winchester

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[quote name='Mark of the Cross' date='01 June 2010 - 11:05 PM' timestamp='1275447939' post='2122555']
[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/idontknow.gif[/img] Dairygirlism!
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So I'm rather new to the phorum. I know Dairygirl is a member...why is that statement an -ism of her's and why is that bad? I wasn't following the logic, now I do, that's why I ask questions [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol.gif[/img]

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[quote name='Winchester' date='03 June 2010 - 12:29 PM' timestamp='1275589797' post='2123237']
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Two by two hands of blue . . .

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Mark of the Cross

[quote name='JustJump' date='04 June 2010 - 08:43 AM' timestamp='1275597811' post='2123272']
So I'm rather new to the phorum. I know Dairygirl is a member...why is that statement an -ism of her's and why is that bad? I wasn't following the logic, now I do, that's why I ask questions [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol.gif[/img]
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You're not the only one who is confused here, I am most of the time!
Source [url="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070419_un-baptised-infants_en.html"]Vatican website[/url]
[quote][font="Times New Roman"][size="3"]But the Church, as mother and teacher, cannot fail to reflect upon the fate of[b] all men,[/b] created in the image of God, and in a more particular way on the fate of the weakest members of the human family and those who are not yet able to use their reason and freedom. [/size][/font]
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I like the bold comment for the reason that I was not always a Catholic, in fact only aware of or believing in the existence of God as a child/young person, I might not even have been considered a Christian. Yet Jesus/God has always loved me and been my constant guide and companion. So yes, the Catholic Church has to acknowledge that although it is the corner stone of Christ's mission on earth it is not the only tool that he uses in the salvation of man kind. The church has a responsibility of love and charity to all people. E.G. In the wake of the Asian tsunami it was Muslims who we went to the aid of under the will and obedience and love of God. If we had not, then we would have failed Christ so therefore these people are cherished and loved by God.


I am glad to learn that the Church teaches this:-
[quote][font="Times New Roman"][size="3"][url="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070419_un-baptised-infants_en.html"]Limbo of the infants Vatican website[/url]
This theory, elaborated by theologians beginning in the Middle Ages, never entered into the dogmatic definitions of the Magisterium,[/size][/font][font="Times New Roman"][size="3"] even if that same Magisterium did at times mention the theory in its ordinary teaching up until the Second Vatican Council. It remains therefore a possible theological hypothesis. However, in the [i][url="http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM"]Catechism of the Catholic Church[/url][/i] (1992), the theory of limbo is not mentioned. Rather, the Catechism teaches that infants who die without baptism are entrusted by the Church to the mercy of God,[/size][/font][/quote]
If the Church were to teach infallibly 'the Limbo of the infants' there would be a terrible contradiction. I think that without looking it up I could say that the Church teaches infallibly that God is a loving (unconditionally) fair, considerate, totally intelligent and [b]forgiving[/b] creator. Forgiveness of sin especially to the contrite, innocent and helpless being a core doctrine. Limbo of the infants would put God in an entirely different light which could not possibly be.

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