Tony Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 I still love America.. but the Terri Schiavo case makes me question a lot of stuff... like how a congress can vote to pass a bill, the President sign it, and the judges not honor it.... a bill designed to protect life at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philothea Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Regardless of current events, I don't think it was ever right to pledge one's allegiance to a political entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melchisedec Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 [quote name='Tony' date='Mar 28 2005, 04:49 PM'] I still love America.. but the Terri Schiavo case makes me question a lot of stuff... like how a congress can vote to pass a bill, the President sign it, and the judges not honor it.... a bill designed to protect life at that [/quote] What bill is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 I dont feel comfortable pledging to a flag that stands for a country that has [i]liberty and justice for [u]some.[/u][/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 28, 2005 Author Share Posted March 28, 2005 [quote name='Melchisedec' date='Mar 28 2005, 05:56 PM'] What bill is that? [/quote] I beleive its jsut called "terri's bill" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melchisedec Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 [quote name='Tony' date='Mar 28 2005, 04:58 PM'] I beleive its jsut called "terri's bill" [/quote] Terris law was found to be unconstitutional. It was not struck down by a judges personal opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melchisedec Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 [quote name='fidei defensor' date='Mar 28 2005, 04:58 PM'] I dont feel comfortable pledging to a flag that stands for a country that has [i]liberty and justice for [u]some.[/u][/i] [/quote] Maybe now you have opened your eyes and see America has always been this way. And frankly I dont know of any place different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 While I am the first to say that we should be Catholic first, we are also to be American. If one is born in this country, and one subscribes to the ideal of this country stands for, not necessarily what is, then we should pledge allegiance to the flag. For it is the flag that represents this country. More than incidentally, there is more to this country than the overt and unsavory opinions of a few. While some abhor the moral good, it is obvious that the majority don't. The majority shout for the moral good. How many counties in the US voted for Bush???? The US is the best place to live. We should not be unpatriotic, but rather, we should stand tall, state that we are Catholic and American (in that order). But that doesn't mean that we should simply denounce the ideal upon which the pledge is founded. Cam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 The federal judge in the case didn't strike down the law. The law stated that the parents could petition to have the case moved to federal court. The federal court did not accept the case. Courts actually reject cases quite often as there are necessary criteria a case must have in order to be heard. The federal court was not required by law to actually hear the case. They were required to have a hearing to see if the would hear the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 [quote name='fidei defensor' date='Mar 28 2005, 06:58 PM'] I dont feel comfortable pledging to a flag that stands for a country that has [i]liberty and justice for [u]some.[/u][/i] [/quote] That is a silly idea. The flag stands for freedom for all, but we are imperfect people in an imperfect world. This isn't heaven or utopia and never will be. Freedom is something every generation must earn. If laws and ideas are wrong, work to change them. But don't dishonor the flag of the country that gives you the freedom to work for those changes. That is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Watch Band of Brothers. I freely pledge allegience to the flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Sorry, I didnt mean to sound ungreatful by what I have said, but you know what I mean by liberty and justice for some. I pledge allegiance to the flag of our countries founding Fathers, but I am not so sure about today. Yes, I love the U.S., but the definition of freedom is changing to much. When freedom means you can murder your child to make your life a tad bit "better", or when you can say that we arent allowed to display the very laws given by God, I dont like that freedom anymore. I think I have a problem with our government more than anything. While it is true that our country is great, our government is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloha918 Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 i think that would should.....we are still technically "under God"......i obviously put more faith in my faith than i do my country, but despite resent events.....we are still an awesome country with a lot of freedoms that others do not......(cough cough)...... religion i am very proud to be an american.....but it does make mistakes kinda the way i love being a catholic......but we havent always done the best of things........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary's Knight, La Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 part of being loyal, hence pledging allegiance, to america is to hold it accountable for wrongs the nation commits, america will always have my allegiance, and my support to when I think it is in the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnsspivey Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 [quote name='fidei defensor' date='Mar 29 2005, 10:12 AM'] or when you can say that we arent allowed to display the very laws given by God, [/quote] No one has said this. What courts have said is that [i]government institutions [/i]can't promote religion and posting the 10 commandments promotes religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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