THE NOMINATION THREAD

[argent_paladin]

This is my favorite site: [url="http://www.catholic-pages.com/hierarchy/cardinals_list.asp"]http://www.catholic-pages.com/hierarchy/cardinals_list.asp[/url] because you can sort the cardinals by age, election, rank and nationality.

So, I nominate:

Dario Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos, Prefect of the Congregation of Clergy

Salvatore Cardinal De Giorgi, Archbishop of Palermo, scholar and spiritual man

Camillo Cardinal Ruini, Vicar General of Rome, basically acts as the bishop of Rome

Francisco Javier Cardinal Erazurriz Ossa, Archbishop of Santiago de Chile


I selected these on three assumptions (which could be wrong, but are logical):
1. They will look for someone older, i.e. over 70
2. They will look for someone with lots of pastoral experience and outstanding administrative skill.
3. They will look for someone who has the formation of priests as a top priority.

These four Cardinals are outstanding teaching pastors, who consider formation of Clergy as very important. I think they will be considered.

[MC Just]

Cardinal Arinze!!!

[homeschoolmom]

My "picks" are:

Polycarp Cardinal Pengo, 60 of Tanzania
Claudio Cardinal Hummes, 70 of Brazil
Alfonso Cardinal Lopez Trujillo, 69 of Colombia

Edited April 8, 2005 by homeschoolmom

[Cam42]

Who knows why the proper way to call a cardinal is as follows?

George Cardinal Pell or Dionigi Cardinal Tettamanzi or Francis Cardinal Arinze.

Cam

[homeschoolmom]

I don't know, but I hope you'll tell us. I was going to start a thread about that...

[J.R.D]

Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re

[the_rev]

I would like to nominate former Bishop in the Green Bay diocese, and the only US Cardinal who is not liberal in a sense is Andrew (I think that is his first name) Maida.

[the_rev]

I was wrong his name is Adam Cardinal Maida

[url="http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_bio_maida_aj_en.html"]http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/...aida_aj_en.html[/url]

[Cam42]

[quote name='the_rev' date='Apr 8 2005, 07:29 PM'] I would like to nominate former Bishop in the Green Bay diocese, and the only US Cardinal who is not liberal in a sense is Andrew (I think that is his first name) Maida. [/quote]
[quote]I was wrong his name is Adam Cardinal Maida.[/quote]

Wanna bet?!!!! I live in Detroit. He is a moderate when it comes to Theology, but he is definitely liberal when it comes to the Liturgy. Look at the Cathedral of Sacred Heart website and see the destruction.....it is sad.

If you want a conservative cardinal in the US, try Justin Cardinal Rigali or Francis Cardinal George. Edward Cardinal Egan is Theologically conservative too. Oh, incidentally, Edmund Cardinal Szoka is a conservative as well.

J. Francis Cardinal Stafford isn't too bad either, although his is not liturgically sound.

But getting back to Cardinal Maida, he is NOT a conservative.....Moderate, yes, conservative, no.

Cam

[the_rev]

I guess I was wrong. Sorry

[Cam42]

No need to apologize.....it's all good.

Cam

[God Conquers]

What if none of these is named? Can phatmass stand the shame!?

Cardinal Ouelette Primate of Canada (Archbishop of Quebec)


I havta rep the only acceptable Canadian.

[Norseman82]

Francis Cardinal George. He can get very riled up in defense of the faith yet has that personal touch. I've seen both sides personally.

(Plus he grew up about a mile from where I grew up).

[argent_paladin]

Cardinal Szoka is the only American I had on my list, even though it will never happen. Here's my full list:

Fab Five: Errázuriz Ossa, Francisco Javier (Chile); López Trujillo, Alfonso (Colombia); Arinze, Francis (Nigeria); Ruini, Camillo (Italy); De Giorgi, Salvatore (Italy)

In the Mix: Castrillón Hoyos, Dario (Colombia); Tettamanzi, Dionigi (Italy); Meisner, Joachim (Germany); Vidal, Ricardo J. (Philippines); Policarpo, José da Cruz (Portugal)

Dark Horses: Turcotte, Jean-Claude (Canada); Hummes, Cláudio (Brazil); Rouco Varela, Antonio María (Spain); Bergoglio, Jorge Mario (Argentina); Poupard, Paul (France); Kasper, Walter (Germany); Rubiano Sáenz, Pedro (Colombia); Dias, Ivan

Too young or too Eastern European: Rivera Carerra, Norberto (Mexico); Glemp, Józef (Poland); Vlk, Miloslav (Czech Republic); Sterzinsky, Georg Maximilian (Germany); Rodríguez Maradiaga, Oscar Andrés (Honduras)

Long-shots: Ortega y Alamino, hot stuff Lucas (Cuba); Sandoval Íñiguez, Juan (Mexico); Poletto, Severino (Italy); Giordano, Michele (Italy); Szoka, Edmund Casimir (USA)


I basically figure that someone as close to 70 as possible and a proven administrator, with pastoral experience, were the most important qualities. Also, I added in geography (I think it will be a Latin American or an Italian) and familiarity with Rome. Unfortunately, the two most important factors (the Holy Spirit) and personal charisma were not considered.

[homeschoolmom]

The media would have a field day if [url="http://www.catholic-pages.com/hierarchy/cardinals_bio.asp?ref=29"]this one[/url] was elected...