Q the Ninja Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 I was going to mention that none of the Cardinals are prefects any more. The offices are closed during the Interregnum and will be vacated at the election of a new Pope, who may reappoint them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rev Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 [quote name='Q the Ninja' date='Apr 9 2005, 09:54 AM'] I was going to mention that none of the Cardinals are prefects any more. The offices are closed during the Interregnum and will be vacated at the election of a new Pope, who may reappoint them. [/quote] Yeah, all the cardinals lost there jobs but will be reappointed. Few higher cardinals received important roles at this time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rev Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 [url="http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_bio_sodano_a_en.html"]http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/...odano_a_en.html[/url] I could live with Cardinal Sodano being pope. I like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immaculata Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 My friend and I were discussing the prophecies of St Malachy, who prophesized that the next pope would be [i]Gloria olivæ[/i], the Glory of the Olives.... who would that point to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Patriarch Lubomyr Cardinal Husar, head of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church. Pope John Paul II was from Eastern Europe and he achieved great things for the Church over the last 26 years, and so I think that the Church should once again look to the East, only this time it should look even further to the East, i.e., to the Eastern (Byzantine) tradition. Cardinal Husar would be the first Pope from the Eastern Christian world in more than 1,000 years. Perhaps an Eastern Catholic Pope could restore full communion with the Eastern Orthodox Churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Wow, it would be VERY interesting to have an Eastern Catholic pope. argent... I'd like to know more why you said Turcotte... He's the Cardinal Archbishop of Montreal, what more do you know about him? I'm Canadian and from what I understand he is an extremely gifted administrator. However, from what I know, I have reservations about his pastoral abilities.... Our Prime Minister's parish priest is a VERY outspoken voice for gay marriage, does nothing about the Prime Minister's militant support of abortion. He's done nothing about this even though it is so high profile. Paul Martin continues to define himself as "devout Catholic" and this priest supports him 100%. This is GRAVE scandal in the Church and the Cardinal has been silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 The Pope is primarily the Bishop of Rome and Patriarch of the West, so it would be (IMO) a wrong move to give the West an Eastern Patriarch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 [quote name='Eremite' date='Apr 9 2005, 09:29 AM'] The Pope is primarily the Bishop of Rome and Patriarch of the West, so it would be (IMO) a wrong move to give the West an Eastern Patriarch. [/quote] You have a right to your opinion, but of course the Pope did not share that view, which is clear from the fact that he appointed Eastern Catholic Cardinals. There have been Eastern Christian Popes in the past, and I'm sure that at some point in the future there will be one again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Cardinals are not Patriarch of the West. The East does not deserve to have Latin Patriarchs, and neither does the west deserve to have an Eastern Patriarch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q the Ninja Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Yes, but some Cardinals are Patriarchs and some Patriarchs Cardinals. We don't have (multiple) Patriarch(s) because of tradition, just like they have them from tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 [quote name='Eremite' date='Apr 9 2005, 09:37 AM'] Cardinals are not Patriarch of the West. The East does not deserve to have Latin Patriarchs, and neither does the west deserve to have an Eastern Patriarch. [/quote] Thankfully the Pope didn't agree with you. Christos Voskrese! Voistinu Voskrese! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 (edited) Really? Has he appointed any Latin Bishops as Patriarchs of the East? Or are Eastern Catholics the only ones who get to preserve their traditions? Edited April 9, 2005 by Eremite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 [quote name='Eremite' date='Apr 9 2005, 12:25 PM'] Really? Has he appointed any Latin Bishops as Patriarchs of the East? Or are Eastern Catholics the only ones who get to preserve their traditions? [/quote] What Pope John Paul II has done, is make several Eastern Catholic Patriarchs, Metropolitans, and Major-Archbishops, Cardinals of the Roman Church, so if you have a problem with that, I'm afraid you will have to complain to the Holy See. There have been Popes in the past who were Eastern Christians, and that has never been seen as a problem by anyone. BTW - There are Latin Patriarchs in many of the old Eastern Patriarchal Sees, including Jerusalem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 I have no problem with Eastern Catholics being Cardinals in the Roman Catholic Church. Cardinals do not lead the Roman Church. The Bishop of Rome, however, DOES lead the Roman Church. It is not too much to ask that the head of the Western Church actually be a westerner (in rite and theology, that is). I don't think Eastern Catholics would be too happy with a Westerner leading their Sui Iuri Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 [quote name='Eremite' date='Apr 9 2005, 12:37 PM'] I have no problem with Eastern Catholics being Cardinals in the Roman Catholic Church. Cardinals do not lead the Roman Church. The Bishop of Rome, however, DOES lead the Roman Church. It is not too much to ask that the head of the Western Church actually be a westerner (in rite and theology, that is). I don't think Eastern Catholics would be too happy with a Westerner leading their Sui Iuri Church. [/quote] You may not like it, but an Eastern Catholic can be elected Pope. God bless, Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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