dUSt Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 [quote name='sweetpea316' date='Apr 13 2005, 12:46 PM'] But who knows...things change sometimes. I've definitely put some thought into it. Parents aren't [i]always[/i] right are they? God bless. [/quote] "Parents just don't understand." - The Fresh Prince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 [quote name='burnsspivey' date='Apr 13 2005, 01:18 PM'] I shouldn't be surprised if no one else answers if you're just going to attack them this way. [/quote] Truth hurts don it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priscilla Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 [quote name='dspen2005' date='Apr 12 2005, 03:35 PM'] There have been threads on other boards with the question, "why are you Catholic?" or something close to that.... so to our Prot brethren, it's your turn. Why do you love being Protestant? [/quote] I don't love protestantism. There's much about it I abhor. Also many prots believe the same as Catholics do on many doctrines - such as the trinity. I do not believe in the trinity as such - though I believe the Lord Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God: but not three Gods: only One. Some prots even venerate Mary (such as in a High Anglican Church). You cannot generalise. The reason I'm not a Catholic is because I have big problems with Mariolatry, praying to dead people, praying the rosary, and many other traditions which I see no Scriptural evidence for. [b]On the other hand there are many things I like about Catholicism: the idea of one true holy apostolic universal church which is the Bride of Christ; I like the teaching (broadly) on contraception; I like the strong moral guidlines; I like the fact that women do not take on headship roles over men; I like the reverence; I like the fact the the Lord's supper is central to the faith. All these things are excellent and I consider myself "catholic" in those areas.[/b] But in Mariolatry etc, I am totally "uncatholic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melporcristo Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 [quote name='Priscilla' date='Apr 13 2005, 01:09 PM'] Also many prots believe the same as Catholics do on many doctrines - such as the trinity. I do not believe in the trinity as such - though I believe the Lord Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God: but not three Gods: only One. The reason I'm not a Catholic is because I have big problems with Mariolatry, praying to dead people, praying the rosary, and many other traditions which I see no Scriptural evidence for. But in Mariolatry etc, I am totally "uncatholic". [/quote] Are you sure about this? Keep doing research friend. With great fervent prayer, you will find your answers! <3 Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulls Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 better yet.... i take a molestin' and keep on protestin' wow i'm ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitelord1 Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 mulls, im sorry dude....but you havent given an y logical reason as to why protestantism is better then catholicism. I know a lot of the protestant beliefs cuz i grew up around them. I get mad too when these scholars proove me wrong, but sometimes its hard to accept the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 [quote name='Priscilla' date='Apr 13 2005, 10:09 PM'] Some prots even venerate Mary (such as in a High Anglican Church). You cannot generalise. [/quote] Yet you generalize about which Protestant churches venerate Mary. I'd say almost all protestants venerate Mary. It's just that they do it sparingly and unconciously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 [quote name='Priscilla' date='Apr 13 2005, 02:09 PM'] I don't love protestantism. There's much about it I abhor. Also many prots believe the same as Catholics do on many doctrines - such as the trinity. I do not believe in the trinity as such - though I believe the Lord Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God: but not three Gods: only One. [/quote] Priscilla, I'm not following you arround, really... But I can't let this slip. Catholics don't believe in 3 God's. We believe that God (one Being) is three distinct persons. A being does not necessitate one persons. Only if you're human and that is because we are imperfect. We cannot be one in being with eachother - even though are natures are the same - human. This limits our imperfect natures to one person. I cannot know you perfectly and you cannot know me perfectly, even though we hold the same human nature. Jesus on the other hand knows the Father perfectly, and the Father knows the Son perfectly and the Holy Spirit likewise. In a pefect triangular flow of knowledge. This perfect knowledge requires that they be One in Being, One in Nature. But they are three disstinct persons. If you are God, then you are three people. You are Father, Son and Holy Spirit. God is What God is. Father, Son and Spirit are who God is. Being answers WHAT. Person answers WHO. Pray about it. Catholics worship One God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 [quote name='Priscilla' date='Apr 13 2005, 05:09 PM'] I don't love protestantism. There's much about it I abhor. Also many prots believe the same as Catholics do on many doctrines - such as the trinity. I do not believe in the trinity as such - though I believe the Lord Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God: but not three Gods: only One. Some prots even venerate Mary (such as in a High Anglican Church). You cannot generalise. The reason I'm not a Catholic is because I have big problems with Mariolatry, praying to dead people, praying the rosary, and many other traditions which I see no Scriptural evidence for. [b]On the other hand there are many things I like about Catholicism: the idea of one true holy apostolic universal church which is the Bride of Christ; I like the teaching (broadly) on contraception; I like the strong moral guidlines; I like the fact that women do not take on headship roles over men; I like the reverence; I like the fact the the Lord's supper is central to the faith. All these things are excellent and I consider myself "catholic" in those areas.[/b] But in Mariolatry etc, I am totally "uncatholic". [/quote] If You do not believe in the Trinity you are not a Christian. The Trinity is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit united in love. They are not three Separate Gods!!! AS we have already explained people are composed of bodies and souls. The body dies and decays, the soul lives forever where-ever God has sent it. So we are NOT praying to dead bodies, we are talking to other members of the Body of Christ who have gone before us. THe Body of Christ does not die. We have also explained how the rosary is a gospel based prayer. Mary is honored above all other people because her fiat gave us Jesus Christ. She is venerated, but not worshipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Priscilla, please stop referring to our veneration of Mary as "Mariolatry." "Mariolatry" means the worship of Mary. However, we don't worship her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 [quote name='infinitelord1' date='Apr 13 2005, 05:56 PM'] mulls, im sorry dude....but you havent given an y logical reason as to why protestantism is better then catholicism. I know a lot of the protestant beliefs cuz i grew up around them. I get mad too when these scholars proove me wrong, but sometimes its hard to accept the truth. [/quote] I just went through it last year. It frustrated the hell out of me. But then I accepted the Church that was established in 33AD by Jesus Christ himself as he called down the Holy Spirit. The frustration of the lies I had been told growing up melted away and since then has been replaced with a foretaste of the kingdom of Heaven. My joy increases on a daily basis, even through pain and sufferings, a joy I know I could have never known as a Protestant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 The thing is, many Protestants don't like being called Protestant or referring to themselves as Protestant. Except in areas of the British Isles, where there are certain cultural and political ties with the usage of the term. But in the USA? The term is very much avoided. Many people in different non-Catholic denominations are "just Christian." You will have many "just Christians" each going to different churches that teach very different things from one another. Surely that is not part of Christ's plan. I have yet to hear someone say something along the lines of "I love being Congregationalist. My church was originated by Robert Brown in 1582, right in Holland, God bless it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulls Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 [quote name='infinitelord1' date='Apr 13 2005, 05:56 PM'] mulls, im sorry dude....but you havent given an y logical reason as to why protestantism is better then catholicism. [/quote] i wasn't attempting to. would you like me to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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point5 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 pass the popcorn...Im not going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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