Da Vinci Code

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

my priest was saying his homily and he said something like this

Not everything you hear is true
like the Da Vinci code its just a book people just a book

everyone laughed it was funny

but i hated that book it rocked my faith for a while until i read a book proving it wrong. what really makes me angry is that people (like myself) believe that garbage and that Dan brown would lie (or do a horribile job reaserching before he wrote the book).

[Cam42]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Jun 26 2005, 10:21 PM']my priest was saying his homily and he said something like this

Not everything you hear is true
like the Da Vinci code its just a book people just a book

everyone laughed it was funny

but i hated that book it rocked my faith for a while until i read a book proving it wrong. what really makes me angry is that people (like myself) believe that garbage and that Dan brown would lie (or do a horribile job reaserching before he wrote the book).
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What is there to research? It is a work of fiction....there was never any preclusion to it being accurate in any semblance. I would be more concerned with the writings of Greeley or Cornwell.

[Guest JeffCR07]

Well Cam, while I agree with you for the most part (its a book people, a fun, fanciful, [i]entirely fictional[/i] book) Brown does make a thinly veiled fact claim (open your book to I believe the 5th page, before the story even begins, and you will see a claim that all architecture, [i]documents[/i] and rituals are fact).

While scholars such as yourself will clearly see that such a thing doesn't mean that Brown's "conclusions" are fact, many ordinary people read that, think back to the story, and say "hey, if those documents are real, then it seems to me like this could actually be right."

But overall, its a fun, albeit ridiculous, book.

[Jaime]

I think Dan Brown has inadvertantly done us a big favor. The fact that so many folk take his fiction as "fact" demonstrates how poorly Catholics are catechized.

[God Conquers]

The problem with Dan Brown's book is that he confuses fiction and non-fiction.

He says his book is fiction. And it is found in the fiction section.

But a preface in the book sways otherwise, trying to found the story on so called "fact".

This is not cool.

[jezic]

hehe

there is truth in it. It is a work of fiction and it is imagined. THis is a truth, that it is not real.

[Deeds]

I have mixed feelings about Dan Brown's books as works of literature. They are incredibly engrossing and fun to read, but his writing style is so melodramatic and his metaphors so laboured that they become a bit annoying. Also, I agree that after reading a couple, you can figure out the baddie well before the end because the plot is basically the same in all of them.

I wouldn't worry about the DVC corrupting people though - it's just a novel and a modicum of research shows the content is absolute rubbish. He only says at the start that the organisations, works of art, etc are real - not that the whole thing is. Although, it turns out that the Priory of Sion is a hoax and invented by someone who wanted to prove a connection to the French royalty.

[God Conquers]

[quote]it's just a novel and a modicum of research shows the content is absolute rubbish[/quote]

The problem here is that a modicum of research is a modicum too much for the majority of casual readers.

[Old_Joe]

It's the new form of gnosticism. The idea that knowledge, often secret knowledge, is the only means of salvation.

[Quietfire]

Scary thing....a few few years back I read the Devils apocryphra on the advise of .....well, nevermind who.

I was so horrified in reading it. Making God out to be this horrible monster and glorifying the devil.
The sad thing is that there was no evidence as to whether it was fiction or non-fiction. Usually you see this on the spine of the cover or somewhere in the front.
The author claims it is 'his life story' and here is the saddest part.....people believe him! That he was once Catholic but now has 'seen the light'.
I did some checkin on the web and there are folks who want to start a religion based on this book.
I threw it back at the person and told them never, NEVER to do that again. They laughed. really. not kidding.
Their response was...."What if?"
Yeah, so God is some spirit sucking monster and Lazarus is still walking the earth waiting for Christ to come back so he can take his revenge on Him.




Yuck.
Disgusting.

This thread should be retitled as "most disgusting book in print"

[curtins]

i think history channel rocks

I swear the da vinci code got my freind away from the faith- she read it and started beleiving in it and her faith just crumbled from there- it was the begining of the end

people who dont have real strong faith will take it as moral truth

we need to burn them all

ill bring the matches whos got the gas?

[Semperviva]

[quote name='Deeds' date='Jun 27 2005, 03:19 PM']I have mixed feelings about Dan Brown's books as works of literature. They are incredibly engrossing and fun to read, but his writing style is so melodramatic and his metaphors so laboured that they become a bit annoying. Also, I agree that after reading a couple, you can figure out the baddie well before the end because the plot is basically the same in all of them.

I wouldn't worry about the DVC corrupting people though - it's just a novel and a modicum of research shows the content is absolute rubbish. He only says at the start that the organisations, works of art, etc are real - not that the whole thing is. Although, it turns out that the Priory of Sion is a hoax and invented by someone who wanted to prove a connection to the French royalty.
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yes.."a modicum of research shows"...it [b]is[/b] complete carp...but [b]you[/b] have research access in the right places..honestly if you go to the library and look up the historic backround on this stuff you'll find carp history books [b]backing up[/b] carp fiction...for many examples..hitler's pope, constantine's sword, [i]any bestselling non-fiction on the new york times[/i] lists for ex..in this instance...[b]holy blood, holy grail[/b] which lOts of ppl read a[i]aafter[/i] davinci code...but my point here is...DVC starts bad bad chain reactions....it is NOT just a novel....YOU CAN"T EVER SAY THAT ABOUT A BOOK...as fictional as fiction gets..it still AFFECTS ppl's thoughts, LIKE ALL MEDIA!!!!!!!! (plus i don't think there is anything fictional about fiction except the names of the ppl in all honesty, but thats not the point of this thread).... most ppl won't really get the real truth when they research...for tons of catholics who are only so-so in their faith DVC is acutally kindof a shipwreck...when they think......in back of their minds .......so maybe catholicism is the hoax .....

uuuuuuuuhm, why dee heck duz it say C-A-R-P, hello spell check where are you?!!? ok well, i'm weak mind trying to express itself using fowl words? is that the point of being censored?? what BS!

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[Semperviva]

[quote name='curtins' date='Jul 2 2005, 09:26 PM']

I swear the da vinci code got my freind away from the faith- she read it and started beleiving in it and her faith just crumbled from there- it was the begining of the end

people who dont have real strong faith will take it as moral truth


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[i]SEE ABOVE FOR VERIFICATION OF MY THEORY, HAAHAHHA
OH YEAH AND

"LET YOUR YES MEAN YES AND YOUR NO MEAN NO"[/i] OOPSIE SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS LOCK THERE BUDDY BOY ugh! ok all good now

[toledo_jesus]

my mom had a harback copy. I took a dagger and scrawled "blasphemy" on the cover and put the dust jacket back on. We'll see if anyone finds it in 20 years.

[toledo_jesus]

[quote name='Semperviva' date='Jul 3 2005, 02:23 AM']yes.."a modicum of research shows"...it [b]is[/b] complete carp...but [b]you[/b] have research access in the right places..honestly if you go to the library and look up the historic backround on this stuff you'll find carp history books [b]backing up[/b] carp fiction...for many examples..hitler's pope, constantine's sword, [i]any bestselling non-fiction on the new york times[/i] lists for ex..in this instance...[b]holy blood, holy grail[/b] which lOts of ppl read a[i]aafter[/i] davinci code...but my point here is...DVC starts bad bad chain reactions....it is NOT just a novel....YOU CAN"T EVER SAY THAT ABOUT A BOOK...as fictional as fiction gets..it still AFFECTS ppl's thoughts, LIKE ALL MEDIA!!!!!!!! (plus i don't think there is anything fictional about fiction except the names of the ppl in all honesty, but thats not the point of this thread).... most ppl won't really get the real truth when they research...for tons of catholics who are only so-so in their faith DVC is acutally kindof a shipwreck...when they think......in back of their minds .......so maybe catholicism is the hoax .....

uuuuuuuuhm, why dee heck duz it say C-A-R-P, hello spell check where are you?!!? ok well, i'm weak mind trying to express itself using fowl words? is that the point of being censored?? what BS!
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it doesn't help that Protestant historians in the 19th century took a special glee in maligning the Church. Ever hear about the 90 million people put to death in the Inquisition? thank the Victorians.

[Cam42]

[quote name='Cam42' date='Jun 26 2005, 06:59 PM']This is a work of fiction.....there is no truth to it whatsoever.

Don't worry about it.  Heck, I am a member of the Work and read the book.  I wasn't offended, I thought it was a good mystery.....and all it did was mix Catholic language with fiction.

Not a big deal.
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Just a reminder......you guys are taking this way too seriously. Defacing a book with a dagger? :freak:

[toledo_jesus]

[quote name='Cam42' date='Jul 4 2005, 06:04 PM']Just a reminder......you guys are taking this way too seriously.  Defacing a book with a dagger?   :freak:
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I was in a mood.

[Cam42]

Apparently......

[curtins]

lol

[Snowcatpa]

[color=purple] On the positive side, we would all like the Church to be more orthodox and it's possible that the church will shrink because of the wanderings of lost Catholics. But then we'll have a core Church of hard-core orthodoxy and Catholicism will naturally draw people in. It'll just explode! If that is meant to happen, then in a way, the Da Vinci Code might be speeding up/playing a part in that process. Allowing the fallen to fall and inspire orthodox Catholics to really learn and defend their faith, so that, in the long run, all people may be drawn to the Truth and Beauty of Christ's Church. [/color]