Kaeldra Posted July 14, 2005 Posted July 14, 2005 I don't have a problem with guys not wearing their shirts, its not really an occasion of sin for me because I grew up with all my cousins and brothers and everyone always doing it if they were working or playing sports or w/e or even if it was hot so it doesnt have much of an effect on me. If a guy has a nice body I'll notice, but it doesnt cause me to lust. As for girls...well I'm not sure, certain things are more modest on certain body types than they are on others. But yeah as a rule no cleavage, no super tight stuff, no shorts or skirts that are like an inch longer than your underwear , I don't relaly think that short skirts (aka like a few inches above the knee) are immodest, but any shorter than that are both not modest and not flattering generally
cmotherofpirl Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='hugheyforlife' date='Jul 14 2005, 10:57 AM']What is appropriate for women to uncover in public? Are the standards different when they are single or married? Are the standards different based on age - young or old? What about men? Are men allowed to show more than women? What are yalls opinions on this? [I'm most interested in the opinions of the men here because I feel most women, especially in our society today, will have a hissy fit about what it is they should be allowed to wear or not wear.] [right][snapback]643055[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Don't show in public what only your husband should see in private. Men need to keep their shirts on, lust works both ways. Women need to understand men are visual animals, and some clothes are like holding doggies treats in front of pit bulls. If its enticing - wear it for his eyes only.
Semperviva Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='StColette' date='Jul 14 2005, 11:08 AM']Even when dressing modestly problems can still occur. Like sometimes it's really depressing when you think you've dressed very modestly and then you still get reactions. Drives me up the wall. [right][snapback]643198[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I KNOW i totally hate that! its like u can't win and you feel like your immodestly dressed even if you KNOW you' re not!!!! AAAAaaagh!
franciscanheart Posted July 15, 2005 Author Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Jul 14 2005, 09:55 PM']Don't show in public what only your husband should see in private. Men need to keep their shirts on, lust works both ways. Women need to understand men are visual animals, and some clothes are like holding doggies treats in front of pit bulls. If its enticing - wear it for his eyes only. [right][snapback]643962[/snapback][/right] [/quote] This is generally what I was thinking.
Socrates Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='Semperviva' date='Jul 14 2005, 11:44 PM']I KNOW i totally hate that! its like u can't win and you feel like your immodestly dressed even if you KNOW you' re not!!!! AAAAaaagh! [right][snapback]644121[/snapback][/right] [/quote] This just shows you're a very attractive woman. Dressing modestly will not magically cause all males to lose any interest in you. (And what kind of reactions? Compliments on appearance? - nothing wrong with that. Lewd remarks, behavior? - Those guys are slime to begin with - ignore them) I will never understand women and their bizarre worries!
Carrie Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='Socrates' date='Jul 15 2005, 02:09 PM']I will never understand women and their bizarre worries! [right][snapback]644506[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Oh but we do worry! It can overwhelmingly frustrating when you try to dress modestly and it doesn't make a difference. Like the true city girl I am, I just tune everyone out and keep walking.
Quietfire Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='Eremite' date='Jul 14 2005, 11:12 AM']If you dress to highlight certain body parts, then they will be noticed. If you dress tastefully, without trying to highlight this or that, then YOU will be noticed, not a body part. That's my opinion anyway. [right][snapback]643076[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Ah, thats why men look sexy in suits. and uniforms.
Carrie Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='Quietfire' date='Jul 15 2005, 02:36 PM']Ah, thats why men look sexy in suits. and uniforms. [right][snapback]644537[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I have to agree. I find men in suits and uniforms are much more attractive than shirtless ones.
photosynthesis Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='Socrates' date='Jul 15 2005, 02:09 PM']I will never understand women and their bizarre worries! [right][snapback]644506[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Whatever. Even when they dress modestly, a lot of women get sexually harassed and abused. There are a lot of disgustitng, dangerous men out there that should be in jail. I'm not saying that all men are sexual predators, but it is a reasonable thing to fear, especially if you live in a big city or you've checked the Megan's Law database in your town. You probably have never experienced this-- you're walking around with your girlfriends, dressed normally, minding your own business, when some guy drives by and beeps his horn at you suggestively. I HATE it when guys do that.
Carrie Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='photosynthesis' date='Jul 15 2005, 03:00 PM']Whatever. Even when they dress modestly, a lot of women get sexually harassed and abused. There are a lot of disgustitng, dangerous men out there that should be in jail. I'm not saying that all men are sexual predators, but it is a reasonable thing to fear, especially if you live in a big city or you've checked the Megan's Law database in your town. You probably have never experienced this-- you're walking around with your girlfriends, dressed normally, minding your own business, when some guy drives by and beeps his horn at you suggestively. I HATE it when guys do that. [right][snapback]644548[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I agree. Some do worse things too. Like pinching. Pepper spray is truly my friend.
photosynthesis Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='Carrie' date='Jul 15 2005, 03:05 PM']I agree. Some do worse things too. Like pinching. Pepper spray is truly my friend. [right][snapback]644550[/snapback][/right] [/quote] hahaha... when i move to NYC after i graduate i am totally going to invest in pepper spray.
Kaeldra Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 Yeah I hate when guys do stuff like that. Or when you're wakling through the store, dressed perfectly modestly, and they'll look you up and down for like EVER and then grin and mutter something to their friend. It makes you feel so icky. (lol yes I did just use the word icky )
Socrates Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='photosynthesis' date='Jul 15 2005, 01:00 PM']You probably have never experienced this-- you're walking around with your girlfriends, dressed normally, minding your own business, when some guy drives by and beeps his horn at you suggestively. I HATE it when guys do that. [right][snapback]644548[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Actually, I'm male, so I haven't experienced that exactly! -LOL However, lot's of girls drive by and scream, make cat-calls, yell out that I'm hot, etc. And being a guy, it doesn't bother me at all, obviously! However, I think you're missing my point. I was referring to girls worrying about this being caused by their dress when they dress modestly - worrying that it's their fault. Also, I think many women can be overly suspicious. Many (especially the "good Catholic" types) seem to regard me suspiciously, like a predator, if I show any kind of friendliness towards them. This gets painful after awhile - being regarded as some scary predator to be avoided, rather than a fellow human being. And a lot of them seem to have no problem with other guys (who are apparently less "threatening') I dunno - just me ranting here . . .
Carrie Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='Socrates' date='Jul 15 2005, 03:21 PM']And being a guy, it doesn't bother me at all, obviously! [/quote] [quote]Many (especially the "good Catholic" types) seem to regard me suspiciously, like a predator, if I show any kind of friendliness towards them. [right][snapback]644559[/snapback][/right] [/quote] It has nothing to do with you personally I'm sure. It's just that we get a bit defensive after dealing with loads of creeps.
Semperviva Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='Carrie' date='Jul 15 2005, 12:55 PM']I have to agree. I find men in suits and uniforms are much more attractive than shirtless ones. [right][snapback]644544[/snapback][/right] [/quote] um, yeah. emphasizes shoulders, ie, strength, very nice, lol [quote name='Carrie' date='Jul 15 2005, 01:05 PM'] Some do worse things too. Like pinching. [right][snapback]644550[/snapback][/right] [/quote] you really wanna watch out for this if you go to Italy!!!
Carrie Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='Semperviva' date='Jul 15 2005, 04:18 PM']um, yeah. emphasizes shoulders, ie, strength, very nice, lol you really wanna watch out for this if you go to Italy!!! [right][snapback]644608[/snapback][/right] [/quote] The Italian guys are worse than the NY ones? :bugeyes:
StColette Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='Kaeldra' date='Jul 15 2005, 01:17 PM'] Yeah I hate when guys do stuff like that. Or when you're wakling through the store, dressed perfectly modestly, and they'll look you up and down for like EVER and then grin and mutter something to their friend. It makes you feel so icky. (lol yes I did just use the word icky ) [right][snapback]644557[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I really hate that !!!! I've even had some guy I didn't know come up and put his arm around my waist. Yeah and I let him have it lol Right in the face. Don't mess with southern girls. We haul hay lol we've got muscle and we can hit.
Carrie Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='StColette' date='Jul 15 2005, 04:52 PM']Don't mess with southern girls. We haul hay lol we've got muscle and we can hit. [right][snapback]644651[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You go girl!
sweetpea316 Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 [quote name='StColette' date='Jul 15 2005, 02:52 PM']I really hate that !!!! I've even had some guy I didn't know come up and put his arm around my waist. Yeah and I let him have it lol Right in the face. Don't mess with southern girls. We haul hay lol we've got muscle and we can hit. [right][snapback]644651[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Haha! Yeah! Go southern girls! We set them straight. But yes, all of the before mentioned stuff bugs me too. Gosh. But there ARE good guys out there! I promise!
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