photosynthesis Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 When I was working at CBS news in New York City last summer, i used to go to this Adoration Chapel....and they had a very strict dress code. It was in a mission, staffed by an order of (mostly Hispanic) nuns who did not speak English. Their dress code was: -no shorts or skirts that go above the knee, no low-cut t-shirts, no tank tops, no jeans, no dresses/skirts with slits down the side. I would wear a skirt sometimes that had 2 slits on both sides...but it wasn't raunchy or anything. The slits only went up to my knees, so technically it could be considered a knee-length skirt. I got turned away from the Blessed Sacrament several times because of that skirt, even though there was nothing really wrong with it. I still think it's pretty ridiculous.... they made me feel like some dirty whore when really there was nothing wrong with my outfit. I don't think people should be turned away from Mass or Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament because of what they're wearing.
photosynthesis Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='Jul 16 2005, 11:18 PM']IAlso, I'm sure everyones different, but I think shoulders, arms, tummies... pretty much any part of the female body, hands, ears, legs, toes, etc.. can be eye catching.. [right][snapback]645947[/snapback][/right] [/quote] maybe we should all just wear burquas... I think the most appealing part of my body is my hair. I have really long, blonde, silky smooth hair that some little kid with cancer is going to be really happy to get when I donate it to Locks of Love. But it's totally fine for me to wear it down in public... in some cultures, women cover their hair, because it is considered to be very precious... the kind of thing only her husband could see. Should I wear a scarf over my head all the time?
Socrates Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 [quote name='photosynthesis' date='Jul 16 2005, 09:25 PM']maybe we should all just wear burquas... I think the most appealing part of my body is my hair. I have really long, blonde, silky smooth hair that some little kid with cancer is going to be really happy to get when I donate it to Locks of Love. But it's totally fine for me to wear it down in public... in some cultures, women cover their hair, because it is considered to be very precious... the kind of thing only her husband could see. Should I wear a scarf over my head all the time? [right][snapback]645955[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Think you're missing Laudate's point. A woman's feature's can be eye-catching or attractive without being immodest. It seems like some of you girls have this idea that being modest means making oneself unnattractive to the male sex, and if guys are still attracted to you it means you're doin something wrong. We're Catholics, not Muslim fundamentalsists that beleive a woman's beauty needs to be completely hidden in public. A face can be quite eye-catching, yet no Catholic says you need to wear veils like Muslim women.
voiciblanche Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 [quote name='photosynthesis' date='Jul 16 2005, 09:20 PM']When I was working at CBS news in New York City last summer, i used to go to this Adoration Chapel....and they had a very strict dress code. It was in a mission, staffed by an order of (mostly Hispanic) nuns who did not speak English. Their dress code was: -no shorts or skirts that go above the knee, no low-cut t-shirts, no tank tops, no jeans, no dresses/skirts with slits down the side. I would wear a skirt sometimes that had 2 slits on both sides...but it wasn't raunchy or anything. The slits only went up to my knees, so technically it could be considered a knee-length skirt. I got turned away from the Blessed Sacrament several times because of that skirt, even though there was nothing really wrong with it. I still think it's pretty ridiculous.... they made me feel like some dirty whore when really there was nothing wrong with my outfit. I don't think people should be turned away from Mass or Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament because of what they're wearing. [right][snapback]645951[/snapback][/right] [/quote] They have a dress code at EWTN, but they have these down-to-your-feet skirts that they hand out if your skirt/shorts aren't long enough. It's kinda cool.
photosynthesis Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 [quote name='voiciblanche' date='Jul 16 2005, 11:40 PM']They have a dress code at EWTN, but they have these down-to-your-feet skirts that they hand out if your skirt/shorts aren't long enough. It's kinda cool. [right][snapback]645979[/snapback][/right] [/quote] well, at least they don't turn people away from the Blessed Sacrament. Although that does kind of remind me of going to one of those restaurants where if you're not wearing a jacket, they make you wear one of those jackets that they give people... i remember getting turned away from the adoration chapel and feeling like total carp and crying all the way home. it's like, "We're sorry, but you're just not holy enough to come in here." i know if someone made me wear one of those skirts i'd be so embarassed and feel like they thought i was a 10 dollar whore.
Laudate_Dominum Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 [quote name='photosynthesis' date='Jul 16 2005, 09:25 PM']I think the most appealing part of my body is my hair. I have really long, blonde, silky smooth hair that some little kid with cancer is going to be really happy to get when I donate it to Locks of Love. But it's totally fine for me to wear it down in public... [/quote] Stop, I can't take this.. I love beautiful hair... Ahh!!'' j/k I was just saying that when I find some young lady attractive, everything about her is gorgeous, and that in general I do find women's shoulders and ankles and other "normal" parts to be attractive. This doesn't mean I think they should be covered. It's not like a lusty thing, it's just beautiful forms. In fact I like outfits that might be somewhat revealing if they are in good taste, meaning they aren't erotic in nature but are feminine in a dignified sense.
photosynthesis Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 obviously that adoration chapel wasn't the only place that has dress codes... i know schools, dance clubs, offices, and all kinds of places have dress codes. i'm not totally against the idea of having set guidelines as to what is and is not acceptable to wear. I just think that people can go a little too far with it, especially when people are wearing sensible, modest clothes (like that skirt i was wearing didn't show anything that went above my knees). sometimes the people who dress immodestly are the ones who need to be in the presence of Our Lord the most. I saw these nuns turn LOTS Of people away, and granted, a lot of these women were wearing revealing clothes (short-shorts, camisoles, midriff, etc). The nuns kept telling the women, "Jesus is offended by that kind of clothing." or "You would be too much of a distraction in the chapel." it's like, "HELLO, maybe if these women actually were allowed in the adoration chapel, Jesus Christ in the Blessed Sacrament might change their hearts and give them the virtue of modesty."
cmotherofpirl Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 remember the parable of the king and the feast?
photosynthesis Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Jul 17 2005, 12:53 AM']remember the parable of the king and the feast? [right][snapback]646084[/snapback][/right] [/quote] yeah, but that's a parable. The wedding garment represents sanctifying grace--being free of mortal sin, in right relationship with God. Usually back in the day when Jesus was alive, people would give you a wedding garment if you were too poor to have one (kinda like the 5 star restaurant where they give you a used jacket to wear). If he were a poor man who could not afford a wedding garment, they would give him one, as it was customary at the time. So this guy probably had some money. Obviously it was his own fault that he didn't have a wedding garment, he was disobeying the King voluntarily and with full knowledge (mortal sin), which is why he gets thrown out. It is questionable as to whether it is a mortal sin for a woman to dress immodestly.
kateri05 Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 (edited) 1) hairy chests ARE hot b) since when are SHOULDERS immodest? as long as tanktops aren't showing your entire belly, love handles and all your cleavage, they really aren't a problem. it gets really hot in some places people! not to mention, if you're going to mass in a cute sundress, you can always throw a sweater over it. my wedding gown was strapless and it was completely tasteful and modest (re: profile picture ) Edited July 17, 2005 by kateri05
Jaime Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 [quote name='StColette' date='Jul 16 2005, 09:15 PM']lol Cheerleading was rather fun. Got to go to all the games. And being a naturally peppy and cheerful person it was just natural lol [right][snapback]645941[/snapback][/right] [/quote] So YOU were the cheerleader with the lampshade on her head!!
StColette Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 [quote name='hot stuff' date='Jul 17 2005, 04:02 PM']So YOU were the cheerleader with the lampshade on her head!! [right][snapback]646595[/snapback][/right] [/quote] was not
IcePrincessKRS Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 [quote name='Socrates' date='Jul 16 2005, 06:00 PM']For the life of me, I can't understand this why any woman would not like hairy chests on men! (but then I'm not female,so what do I know?) I thought traditionally hairy chests were considered sexy by women. [right][snapback]645730[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I think maybe its more of a generational thing... [quote name='Sarah_JC' date='Jul 16 2005, 08:17 PM']. Fingertip rule: Stand up straight, shoulders back. Your shorts should go no higher than however far down your leg your fingertips reach. [right][snapback]645809[/snapback][/right] [/quote] [quote name='StColette' date='Jul 16 2005, 08:48 PM']yeah the shorts rule may not work so great lol I tried measuring myself that way just a sec ago rofl yeah that wouldn't work. [right][snapback]645832[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Same here. I have pretty long arms. haha [quote name='Tony' date='Jul 16 2005, 10:02 PM']ok... so we know.. no matter how hard the woman tried to dress modestly.. its not going to keep every guy's eye from wandering.. so... I ask you to please pray for us men! Thank you [right][snapback]645916[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Good point, Tony.
Quietfire Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 Cheerleading? Ah, I remember those days. Hey, good rule of thumb when receiving the Eucharist. Dress like your visiting your future inlaws for the first time. Dress like youre visiting the President. Dress like youre visiting the Queen of England. Dress like youre visiting the King...cause you are.
Socrates Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 [quote name='IcePrincessKRS' date='Jul 17 2005, 08:34 PM']I think maybe its more of a generational thing... [right][snapback]646860[/snapback][/right] [/quote] What do you mean? I think it just shows that this is indeed a perverse (perverted?) generation. It's one of those things that started in the gay subculture. Gays pretty much control fashion, the girls read the fashion mags, then they start buying into the whole homosexual standards of attractiveness. I've noticed it's usually the worldly, "sophisticated" types of girls who seem most "put-off" by traditional masculinity.
Christie_M Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 [quote name='Quietfire' date='Jul 17 2005, 07:35 PM']Cheerleading? Ah, I remember those days. Hey, good rule of thumb when receiving the Eucharist. Dress like your visiting your future inlaws for the first time. Dress like youre visiting the President. Dress like youre visiting the Queen of England. Dress like youre visiting the King...cause you are. [right][snapback]646862[/snapback][/right] [/quote] you said it!
photosynthesis Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 [quote name='Socrates' date='Jul 17 2005, 10:40 PM']What do you mean? I think it just shows that this is indeed a perverse (perverted?) generation. It's one of those things that started in the gay subculture. Gays pretty much control fashion, the girls read the fashion mags, then they start buying into the whole homosexual standards of attractiveness. I've noticed it's usually the worldly, "sophisticated" types of girls who seem most "put-off" by traditional masculinity. [right][snapback]646868[/snapback][/right] [/quote] "These are [i]always [/i]the times that try men's souls." It is true that men DO control the fashion industry, but that does not necessarily mean that they struggle with same sex attraction or are "gay" as you say. Why would a "gay" man with SSA want to see MORE of a woman's body? Wouldn't he want to see more revealing clothes on men? The problem with women's fashion is that it's controlled by sex-crazed Larry Flint/Hugh Hefner types who all want women to look like heroin-addicted centerfolds. Homosexual men couldn't really care less about women in spaghetti straps and Daisy Dukes. However, the abercrombie + fitch catalog is a different story....
Carrie Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 [quote name='hot stuff' date='Jul 15 2005, 11:59 PM']Burquas are hot [right][snapback]644953[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Totally!
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