liberal cities

[Era Might]

Massachusetts is supposed to be a liberal bastion, but we always elect a Republican for governor (see Romney [comma] Mitt).

Go figure.

[Iacobus]

[quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Oct 8 2005, 05:49 PM']All of the places I can imagine myself living are very secular and liberal. But they have the best restuarants and libraries.

My top three are Burlington (Vermont),, Madison (Wisconsin), and Austin, (Texas).

I will get frostbite wherever I go! I'm not used to cold weather any more!

Why are all the good places to live liberal? Why can't Lubbock be like Austin?
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Hey, my college libaray is pretty good. Plus, they have been selected as the most comfortable college library in the US. The college community is really liberal but the town isn't. As far as food goes... Grinnell House, the college's catering division, is pretty good, and the places in town aren't to bad. At least to my dining hall ruined taste.

[Norseman82]

If it's a big secular college town (like the People's Republic of Madison or Evanston or Champaign-Urbana), it tends to be more liberal. Same if it has a lot of high-tech companies that draw young seculars and gays.

[photosynthesis]

[quote name='Norseman82' date='Oct 9 2005, 05:21 PM']Same if it has a lot of high-tech companies that draw young seculars and gays.
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what does homosexuality have to do with high-tech companies?

[Cow of Shame]

electronics make you the gay.



...say....how much time have you spent on your computer?

[photosynthesis]

[quote name='Cow of Shame' date='Oct 9 2005, 06:00 PM']electronics make you the gay. 
...say....how much time have you spent on your computer?
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haha...

umm...me? probably too much time for my own good...

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Oct 9 2005, 06:38 AM']You should see the libraries in Madison, WI!
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You should see the taxes there... oh... wait...

[desertwoman]

In cities, you have a plethora of people. Different people want different things, and different tastes of food and literature.

The libraries represents this. If the pop. just has one particular type of people, then the library will represent this since libraries are reactive.

If there is a demographic shift, then the library will represent this as well. Like in our public library system in Charleston,SC... there is a great influx of the hispanic community in the county. The library didn't have a single book in spanish, now the volume is growing every year.

There are more and more books on the culutre and the langauge.

And now, we have more and more hispanic restaurants popping up in our city as well. Mmmmmmmmmmm.

[tojo]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' date='Oct 9 2005, 03:12 AM']i always thought of Michigan as being a great study of large liberal vs large conservative cities
Grand Rapids on west mich, and detroit on east mich

look, its not that people are willing to spend money on thier city - its that they dont have a choice
we have state taxes, and "backdoor state taxes," and then city taxes and "local taxes"
the tax and spend situation, and the  welfare -state that comes with it (or "nanny state" or whatever) and everything else - all the liberal policies have been hitting Detroit hard for years, and its getting worse despite recent efforts

meanwhile GR grows ...slowly dont misunderstand, Michigan[i] is[/i] a blue state    --  and  with a liberal Governor from Canada, at that! but with  people  fleeing the state of Michigan, like many other blue states -  its not so noticable in Grand Rapids 
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Hi there my fellow Michigander! Eastsider struggling to balance out the state conservative vote here!

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[Dreamweaver]

Madison, WI, yes its a beautiful town. Its been many many years since I've been there. I may end up moving there after I'm done with college, they do have a big tech sector. Haha, I don't see how tech stuff makes you gay! Now having a big theatre/performing arts base...

Anyways, what is the state of the church in many liberal cities? Do they tend to stay traditional, or even speak out louder against such things as abortion?

[Socrates]

Ok, all this phatmassing at my computer is definitely turning me gay, but seriously folks . . .

It's quite well established statistically that big city-dwellers tend to be significantly more liberal than country-dwellers (look at those famous red/blue election maps by county!) This does not mean, of course, that everyone in a big city is liberal!

But the reason not really all that mysterious. Urban areas tend to draw higher concentrations of secular single professionals (gay and straight) who tend to be socially more liberal. Also cities have high concentrations of poor minorities who tend to swing Democratic.
Married people with families (who tend to be more conservative) tend to move to more rural or suburban areas to raise their children. And country boys are more likely to believe in conservative values such as property and gun rights, and religious values.

[curtins]

Don't move to the Communist Wealth of Massachewsits.

[Era Might]

[quote name='Dreamweaver' date='Oct 9 2005, 09:33 PM']Anyways, what is the state of the church in many liberal cities? Do they tend to stay traditional, or even speak out louder against such things as abortion?
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The Bishops of Massachusetts have been VERY vocal opponents of gay marriage and embryonic stem cell research. Before them, Cardinal Law was a very strong voice against abortion.

On the flip side, it would be interesting to see is how well the Church in politically conservative areas carries forth the social Gospel.

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[Carrie]

I'm not sure if my city is liberal.

[zabbazooey]

[philothea]

[quote name='Carrie' date='Oct 10 2005, 09:49 AM']I'm not sure if my city is liberal. 

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But that kind of makes the point that it doesn't have to matter. The city may be liberal, but there are still loads of good Catholics there!

[photosynthesis]

[quote name='philothea' date='Oct 10 2005, 06:17 PM']

But that kind of makes the point that it doesn't have to matter.  The city may be liberal, but there are still loads of good Catholics there!
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there sure are!

[Norseman82]

[quote name='photosynthesis' date='Oct 9 2005, 03:23 PM']what does homosexuality have to do with high-tech companies?
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Many of them were pioneers with the "domestic partners" benefits.

[ryanmeyersmusic]

[quote]On the flip side, it would be interesting to see is how well the Church in politically conservative areas carries forth the social Gospel.[/quote]

Amen? Amen.

It's difficult as a Catholic who understands the Church's social teaching to accept any party. If only the Democrats would budge on abortion, we'd have some moving room. If only the Republicans would budge on practically everything else, then we'd have some moving room. I vote for a third party practically every election. Last presidential election it was Joe Shriner.

[photosynthesis]

interesting! I just Googled him... he sounds like an interesting candidate, I especially like a lot of his ideas about race... it sounds like he could use a really good PR team.