Brother Adam Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Well? Speculate. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aloysius Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 it's basically like asking if God could do anything He wouldn't be God you form a paradox off of the statement "nothing is impossible with God" if something were impossible for God, He wouldn't be God. therefore there would be no question to ask in the first place. If God made a rock that He coildn't lift, He would be making something that He couldn't do and thus something would be impossible for Him. the only way for nothing to be impossible for Him is for it to be impossible for Him to make something impossible for Him short answer, He can't go against his own nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 Someone said no. Are you doubting the omnipotence of God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 that was me. se my answer above. If He made something impossible for Him, He wouldn't be omnipotent. so to say He can't do it is to AFFIRM his omnipotence. to say He could do it is to NEGATE his omnipotence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 He can. He won't. It would mean giving up the power to lift the rock, therefore denying Himself which He simply will not do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scardella Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 *brain runs in circles* [quote]This statement is a lie.[/quote] GAAAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 [quote name='Didacus' date='Nov 9 2005, 01:08 PM']He can. He won't. It would mean giving up the power to lift the rock, therefore denying Himself which He simply will not do. [right][snapback]783865[/snapback][/right] [/quote] no, He can't. to do so would be to make Himself not omnipotent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philothea Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 [quote name='scardella' date='Nov 9 2005, 12:13 PM']*brain runs in circles* [quote]This statement is a lie. [/quote] GAAAH! [right][snapback]783875[/snapback][/right] [/quote] See, I said the right answer was ! Brother Adam is naughty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 If God could do that, He wouldn't be omnipotent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelFilo Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Silly question, lets look at some philosophy when logic fails to give the appropriate answer. A rock is material, that is it has substance. According to a great many philosophers material has dimmensions. That is, material exists in a space; today we see it as having height, length, and depth. According to Aquinas, God is pure Form (or Spirit). Only in the Incarnation does the Son get a body. Now, a form has no dimension, so how could it possibly be compared to that of something with dimensions. That is, we know God has influence over material thins, but since he is everywhere, and everywhere cannot be understood in the dimensions we know since God has no dimensions, then God cannot make a rock larger than Himself, not because of an inability of God, but because thta which has no dimension cannot be compared to that which has dimension. Infinity cannot be compared to the number 5 (for the mathematicians out there). Equally so, God cannot be compared to a rock. God bless, Mikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Nov 9 2005, 12:16 PM']no, He can't. to do so would be to make Himself not omnipotent [right][snapback]783879[/snapback][/right] [/quote] He is omnipotent, thus He can, but to do so would be to make Himself not omnipotent which He will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semalsia Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Well there you have it. Brother Adam has proved that there is no God. *runs away* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 [quote name='Didacus' date='Nov 9 2005, 04:48 PM']He is omnipotent, thus He can, but to do so would be to make Himself not omnipotent which He will not. [right][snapback]784072[/snapback][/right] [/quote] if He COULD make something that He COULDN't do, then He wouldn't be omnipotent.Thus, the only wway to affirm His omnipotence is to say He cannot do this. It would be doing something contrary to His own nature. Do you think that God's omnipotence means that He has the power to not be God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Would this be a proper use of His Free Will to do so? If it's not, then it means He's going against His nature and has become a slave. To be ultimately free, He must use His free will in accord with the Good (His nature). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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