argent_paladin Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 [quote name='dUSt' date='Nov 30 2005, 04:44 PM']I know I do. I was fearing prison time. [right][snapback]805864[/snapback][/right] [/quote]
argent_paladin Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 [quote name='Black Friday' date='Nov 30 2005, 12:03 AM'][quote name='qfnol31']You realize that it only goes against practicing, right? Technically, it only says the same thing (as far as I can tell) as the Church teaches about heterosexual men and activity.[/quote] No, it doesn't. It says that men with "deep-seated homosexual tendencies" cannot be ordained, and both the document itself and the Catechism make clear that men with "deep-seated homosexual tendencies" are those who have a homosexual orientation, regardless of their behavior. The document bans all homosexual men from being ordained. How it will be interpreted is a different story. But what it says is crystal clear. [right][snapback]804826[/snapback][/right] [/quote] would you consider someone with homosexual tendencies which are not deep-seated to be a homosexual man? But that person can be ordained. Therefore, the Vatican allows for homosexual men to be ordained. However, if you don't think that men with homosexual tendencies are homosexual, then you are not using the standard definition.
Kilroy the Ninja Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 wow. I get really sick for a few days and look what happens around here. Shouldn't this be in Open Mic despite the lameness?
Guest T-Bone Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 [quote name='Kilroy the Ninja' date='Dec 1 2005, 02:46 AM']wow. I get really sick for a few days and look what happens around here. [right][snapback]806753[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You're the glue that holds this place together...
John Lowell Posted December 1, 2005 Author Posted December 1, 2005 [quote name='dUSt' date='Nov 30 2005, 04:44 PM']I know I do. I was fearing prison time. [right][snapback]805864[/snapback][/right] [/quote] dUSt, Talk about open mouth insert foot, jail time may be just a tad closer than you think what with the taxing authorties in Texas reporting Phatmass Inc as "Not In Good Standing" as of December 1, 2005, dUSt: [url="http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=phatmass%20inc%20&Button=search&Search_ID=32014679859"]http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cp..._ID=32014679859[/url] Now what the meaning might be of this development or how the founder of a Repub ... , I mean, "Catholic" site with such a fine, supporting community of pious people could get his teat in a wringer this way I just couldn't say. But you may want to give your contributors an explanation. I know I'd sure want one of I'd given you money. John Lowell
Aloysius Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 What is wrong with you? There is a large majority of orthodox Catholics who supported the republican party this election--that's a nationwide trend. Dust didn't use phatmass to promote any republican cause, he simply did not censor the overwhelming democratic force that continued to insist that voting for an obvious pro-abort like John Kerry was an immoral act. no phatmass resource was directed towards this cause, and the public phorum was completely evenly offered to ANYONE with ANY OPINION on the elections. anyway, I'm sure there's a perfectly logical explanation for the not in good standing status, probably a form error or computer glitch. there is no [i]fine[/i] being levied, there is something wrong with the texas finance tax status of the organization that needs to be fixed.
Theoketos Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 [quote name='John Lowell' date='Dec 1 2005, 10:26 AM']dUSt, Talk about open mouth insert foot, jail time may be just a tad closer than you think what with the taxing authorties in Texas reporting Phatmass Inc as "Not In Good Standing" as of December 1, 2005, dUSt: [url="http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=phatmass%20inc%20&Button=search&Search_ID=32014679859"]http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cp..._ID=32014679859[/url] Now what the meaning might be of this development or how the founder of a Repub ... , I mean, "Catholic" site with such a fine, supporting community of pious people could get his teat in a wringer this way I just couldn't say. But you may want to give your contributors an explanation. I know I'd sure want one of I'd given you money. John Lowell [right][snapback]806870[/snapback][/right] [/quote] FIrst, I doubt that Phatmass broke any laws concerning its 501c3 status. Second, I recomend that you spend a little more time here before condemning all of as Republican. Actually, maybe you need to spend a little less time on line. I hope that you find peace soon.
Aloysius Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 Actually, you might have us. We do provide a safehaven for many Creepy Aliens, and we don't know if they have green cards. You might want to call Imigration on us.
Era Might Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Dec 1 2005, 01:11 PM']Actually, you might have us. We do provide a safehaven for many Creepy Aliens, and we don't know if they have green cards. You might want to call Imigration on us. [right][snapback]806963[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Good point. How can this be a Republican phorum when it supports such unfettered illegal immigration?
Theoketos Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 So because this is my half day at work, I had the opportunity to call down to Austin's open record division. Apperently the 05' franchise has not been filed yet. This means that this status is most likely due to dUSt moving and forgeting to file something minor, and not our soon to be friend John. Just so everyone knows.
Guest T-Bone Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 Mr. John Lowell: I really don't understand your vendetta agains us. I have been slighted on numerous message boards, and I've either bucked it up, or left and never came back. Please do one or the other. You're embarassing yourself.
IcePrincessKRS Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 Wow..... this has got to be the lamest thread I've read in awhile.... Just a hint, "I'll file a complaint with the appropriate public authority" isn't the best way to convince us to bring out the welcome wagon. Personally this is the first thread of yours I have read and I am totally turned off.
franciscanheart Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 ive been gut giggling for probaby longer than i did during a christmas story. if this wasnt ridiculous to begin with... it definitely is now.
SarahB Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Dec 1 2005, 01:07 PM']Second, I recomend that you spend a little more time here before condemning all of as Republican. [right][snapback]806958[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Yeah, I totally resent being called a Republican. I'm much further to the right.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 [quote name='John Lowell' date='Nov 29 2005, 08:44 PM']dUSt, Don't like your tone, chief. Since you're the founder here we'll take your reply as authoritative. As promised and given your invitation, I'll be looking hard at filing an FTC complaint. Don't be surprized if this supposedly "Catholic " forum hears from them. John Lowell [right][snapback]804479[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I haven't really been following this much, but dUSt has every right to say that he's not comfortable with your phrasing of certain things. Further, that wasn't a tone...that's the attitude he always uses. Please stop judging him or anyone on this forum before you've had a chance to know them. Finally, don't get all tied up. It's just a phorum. God bless, Micah
tojo Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 [quote name='SarahB' date='Dec 1 2005, 12:56 PM']Yeah, I totally resent being called a Republican. I'm much further to the right. [right][snapback]807013[/snapback][/right] [/quote]
Timothy Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 John your behavior reminds me of somebody I know. Anyways, note to the pham: Lets just close down this thread and move on with life. Their are much higher quality topics to discuss, rather than if dUSt filied a paper or not. The point here is that while John might find amusement in this thread, he consumes are time, and we could be discussing much better items. John, if you need to say something to dUSt, might I recommend the PM method. Ohh and cheer up bud lifes not all that bad. God Bless.
Matty_boy Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 (edited) I don't think there's anything you can actually do to this organization. Even if they are considered a 501©(3) through the IRS, so is the YMCA (Young Mens CHRISTIAN Association) which charges $32 a month for membership (the same as 24 hour fitness and other similar non-tax exempt organizations. Moveon.org is considered a 501©(4) which is just to classify what kind of an organization it is, but it has the same rights and priveliges as any other tax-exempt (George Soros donated $64 million to moveon.org to fund a smear campaign against President Bush. Planned Parenthood is a 501c3 and their President, Gloria Feldt, makes a sick $374,329 per year. If these organizations arent breaking any laws, Phatmass is definitely not breaking any laws. Furthermore, neither the State of Texas nor any other state has the authority to affect the status of any tax-exempt organizations with the IRS. The IRS is a FEDERAL institution run by the FEDERAL government. Just because a person files a complaint doesn't mean that an organization is in violation. During the last presidential election, there were reports of audits by the Federal Elections Commission on both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. Bradley Smith, the Chairman of the FEC, spoke during a couple of my classes at school and said that they have to investigate every report, but only because there was a complaint, and usually it's just a political scam. Anyone can file a complaint with any organization, and the complaint must be investigated. Edited December 1, 2005 by Matty_boy
Thy Geekdom Come Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 [quote name='Black Friday' date='Nov 30 2005, 12:52 AM'][quote name='Era Might']The thought passed my mind as well (that he's toying with us). He seems like an intelligent enough man. But suddenly, Good Friday shows up and supports John Lowell. Good Friday, of course, is an intelligent person with a grudge against Catholicism (and Phatmass). Draw your own conclusions.[/quote] Actually, I'm [i]not[/i] John Lowell. It's just a happy coincidence that there happens to be another disgruntled Catholic here who hasn't either left in frustration or been suspended yet. If you don't believe me, I think dUSt can check our IP addresses (which, in my case, he might want to think about blocking...) and see that we're not the same person. I only came back to insult the pope following the release of the perfidious document today. I have no intention of sticking around, I'm sure I'll be promptly suspended. [right][snapback]804804[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I hope you went to Confession for your last visit here, Nathan.
Kilroy the Ninja Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Since this isn't much of a debate, and really complaints should be handled privately, and it's been requested, I'll close this thread. dUSt can reopen it if he so desires (since it's his website and all). It's an amusing but increasingly uncharitable thread. God Bless!
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