What's your American party?

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

lol i couldn't tell if you were joking or not

[qfnol31]

Oui, I do often.

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='OLAM Dad' date='Jan 8 2006, 01:06 PM']Other than the life issue the Dems and Republicans are pretty much a bunch of demopublicans and they all vote alike.  It's disturbing.  I suspect that in 2008 we'll even loose the pro life difference in the race for president.  All of the Republicans who seem to be likely 2008 presidental candidates are at least partly pro choice.  Rice, Rudolf G., McCain, all of them.
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Do you think Brownback (KS) is a likely candidate? he's pro life....and Catholic...

[desertwoman]

I"m down for the Theocratic Rule baby.

[Era Might]

Our current President is pro abortion. I think Reagan was the last pro life President (not sure about Bush Sr).

[Colleen]

[quote name='Era Might' date='Jan 8 2006, 02:23 PM']Our current President is pro abortion. I think Reagan was the last pro life President (not sure about Bush Sr).
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Didn't Reagan kind of pave the way for Roe v. Wade (at least, as the governor of California)?

[Tony]

I am independant . I vote according to issues such as pro-life. If there was a democrat more prol-life than a republican, I would vote for him

[Era Might]

[quote name='Colleen' date='Jan 8 2006, 03:27 PM']Didn't Reagan kind of pave the way for Roe v. Wade (at least, as the governor of California)?
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I'm not sure. I thought he was unapologetically pro life, without exceptions. I could be wrong...

[qfnol31]

He's not pro-abortion, but he's not strictly pro-life either.

[qfnol31]

[quote name='MSNBC']Bush: Opposition to abortion (except in very narrow cases of rape, incest or threat to the woman’s life is endangered) is at the core of Bush’s "right-to-life" platform. Opposes funding international organizations involved in abortion. Opposes intact dilation and extraction, known by opponents as "partial-birth abortion," which he calls a "brutal and violent practice." Opposes school-based clinics that provide referrals or counseling for contraception and abortion. Supports legislation to extend 14th Amendment protections to unborn children.[/quote]

[url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4448630/"]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4448630/[/url]

[Era Might]

[quote]McCAIN [to Bush]: Do you believe in the exemption, in the case of abortion, for rape, incest, and life of the mother?
BUSH: [b]Yeah, I do[/b].
McCain: [But you] support the pro-life plank [in the Republican Party platform]?
BUSH: I do.
McCAIN: So, in other words, your position is that you believe there’s an exemption for rape, incest and the life of the mother, but you want the platform that you’re supposed to be leading to have no exemption. Help me out there, will you?
BUSH: I will. The platform doesn’t talk about what specifically should be in the constitutional amendment. The platform speaks about a constitutional amendment. It doesn’t refer to how that constitutional amendment ought to be defined.
McCAIN: If you read the platform, it has no exceptions.
BUSH: John, I think we need to keep the platform the way it is. This is a pro-life party.
McCAIN: Then you are contradicting your platform.

--Exchange between Bush and McCain, on Larry King Live, 2000 [/quote]

I voted for Bush because the alternative was even worse. But Bush is, nevertheless, pro-abortion.

Edited January 8, 2006 by Era Might

[Colleen]

[quote name='Era Might' date='Jan 8 2006, 02:29 PM']I'm not sure. I thought he was unapologetically pro life, without exceptions. I could be wrong...
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This is from OntheIssues.org:

[quote]Reagan was not as obsessive about anti-abortion legislation as he often seemed. Early in his California governorship he had signed a permissive abortion bill that has resulted in more than a million abortions. Afterward, he inaccurately blamed this outcome on doctors, saying that they had deliberately misinterpreted the law. When Reagan ran for president, he won backing from pro-life forces by advocating a constitutional amendment that would have prohibited all abortions except when necessary to save the life of the mother. Reagan’s stand was partly a product of political calculation, as was his tactic after he was elected of addressing the annual pro-life rally held in Washington by telephone so that he would not be seen with the leaders of the movement on the evening news. While I do not doubt Reagan’s sincerity in advocating an anti-abortion amendment, he invested few political resources toward obtaining this goal.
Source: The Role of a Lifetime, by Lou Cannon, p. 812 Jul 2, 1991 [/quote]

[rkwright]

the canidates that win election win for a reson.. they get the most votes by appealing to the most people, that is they play a middle of the road to everyone. Thats both the beauty and curse of a democratic republic. We're not going to get an extremist that leads us down some crazy road, instead the way of progress is slow and subtle. Personally I'm more ok with a slow changing congress than an extreme over powerful leader.

EENS- A Catholic Monarchy? Sounds like Charlemagne over again...

[rkwright]

a quick note on the prolife stuff...

Personally I believe its out of Congress's hands, and I'm not sure an executive order could even do much. Remember it wasn't a law that made aborition legal it was a court ruling that you could not stop an aborition on privacy grounds. The key to stopping aborition in the US is in the courts not the legislation.

[philothea]

The only one I've actually supported is the Republican Party.

But I'm really annoyed with them.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Colleen' date='Jan 8 2006, 01:27 PM']Didn't Reagan kind of pave the way for Roe v. Wade (at least, as the governor of California)?
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Reagan changed his views on abortion between being Governor of California and becoming President.

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='zwergel88' date='Jan 8 2006, 01:48 PM']The Democratic Party

I don't like the death penalty, war, torture, or tax cuts for the rich, but I do like health care for everyone, good public schools, and social security, etc.  In a nutshell that is why I am a democrat.
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...and a pacifist, and a big-government Marxist

[OLAM Dad]

[quote name='aalpha1989' date='Jan 8 2006, 01:59 PM']Do you think Brownback (KS) is a likely candidate? he's pro life....and Catholic...
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And Santorum is a daily communicant, I believe. However, I don't think either will be able to run.

[Lounge Daddy]

Generally Republican
I have voted for Libertarian candidates in state and local elections

[Inactive Josh]

Coming from the stance of someone who doesn't live in the USA, it would seem important to me that democratic elections aren't a single issue affair (i.e. abortion). The Bishops Conference of England and Wales, at the last general election, released a document which showed the various issues at stake, namely those such as social justice, a willingness to welcome asylim seekers, care for the homeless, the Iraq War/foreign policy and abortion.

I think, essentially, a Catholic must be a floating voter and must be astute enough to recognise what will be dealt with in the next session of government. Although abortion is a huge issue, it won't be dealt with soon (in Britain this is the case, at least). However, if you take an issue such as the Iraq War, then you have something which is most definitely at the forefront of the agenda. Many lives will be lost in Iraq as will many through abortion.

Edited January 8, 2006 by Josh