Sojourner Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 I think being unwilling to concede makes you a less credible debater.
qfnol31 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 I'm willing to concede points. I was just messing with him. I don't think that there is a possibility for a third-party candidate to win, and hot stuff kinda proves this by saying it hasn't happened for 150 years or so.
Sojourner Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Jan 10 2006, 01:38 PM']I'm willing to concede points. I was just messing with him. I don't think that there is a possibility for a third-party candidate to win, and hot stuff kinda proves this by saying it hasn't happened for 150 years or so. [right][snapback]851624[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I've never seen you concede a point.
Jaime Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Jan 10 2006, 12:38 PM']I'm willing to concede points. I was just messing with him. I don't think that there is a possibility for a third-party candidate to win, and hot stuff kinda proves this by saying it hasn't happened for 150 years or so. [right][snapback]851624[/snapback][/right] [/quote] But you need to acknowledge that one of the greatest presidents in US history was a third party candidate. That was the point. And the Republican party was originally a third party. So what does that say? A third party can be successful
qfnol31 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 Oh, I don't disagree with that. I believe that 3rd party candidates can and will one day again be successful. That doesn't mean in this election though. [quote]I've never seen you concede a point.[/quote] You don't discuss much with me.
Sojourner Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Jan 10 2006, 01:42 PM']You don't discuss much with me. [right][snapback]851629[/snapback][/right] [/quote] So? I still read your arguments.
qfnol31 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 [quote name='Sojourner' date='Jan 10 2006, 12:44 PM']So? I still read your arguments. [right][snapback]851631[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I do better in person.
mariahLVzJP2 Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 well it just seems that these days, you have to vote democrat or republican ONLY. voting for a third party today is like throwing a vote away.
qfnol31 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 [quote name='mariahLVzJP2' date='Jan 10 2006, 12:54 PM']well it just seems that these days, you have to vote democrat or republican ONLY. voting for a third party today is like throwing a vote away. [right][snapback]851650[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Do you think that's how people make it out to be or how it is in practice?
OLAM Dad Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 [quote name='mariahLVzJP2' date='Jan 10 2006, 12:54 PM']well it just seems that these days, you have to vote democrat or republican ONLY. voting for a third party today is like throwing a vote away. [right][snapback]851650[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Voting one's conscience is NEVER throwing one's vote away. On the other hand, voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.
qfnol31 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 [quote name='OLAM Dad' date='Jan 10 2006, 12:58 PM']Voting one's conscience is NEVER throwing one's vote away. On the other hand, voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. [right][snapback]851658[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I wrote a fun essay on this that I enjoyed doing. It had to do with the idea of voting for the lesser of two evils versus permitting one of those two evils from happening.
Sojourner Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Jan 10 2006, 01:46 PM']I do better in person. [right][snapback]851636[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Don't we all ...
qfnol31 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 Probably. For the record, I do really try to concede when I think there's a point to do so. Unlucky for me, I've only argued on the death penalty in six months and so my opinions are felt more strongly (still something I'd like to understand!).
Jaime Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 [quote name='mariahLVzJP2' date='Jan 10 2006, 12:54 PM']well it just seems that these days, you have to vote democrat or republican ONLY. voting for a third party today is like throwing a vote away. [right][snapback]851650[/snapback][/right] [/quote] This is what drives me nuts ( not you personally mariah! you just brought it to light) There are 80 million Catholics in the US. If we all voted truly prolife, does anyone really believe we wouldn't be heard?
Captain_Fantastic Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 [quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Jan 8 2006, 11:13 AM']I am a Catholic Monarchist. [right][snapback]849431[/snapback][/right] [/quote] What exactly is a Catholic Monarchist?
mariahLVzJP2 Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 democrats and republicans always get more media coverage and our attention (espcially with abortion and the current war), they are also the only two parties that get elected for presidency. *i hear ya hot stuff, wow, what an impact that would make! vote pro-life
mariahLVzJP2 Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 p.s. how do you quote someone on here? im kinda new
philothea Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 [quote name='mariahLVzJP2' date='Jan 10 2006, 11:33 PM']p.s. how do you quote someone on here? im kinda new [right][snapback]852505[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Either click "reply" under the message you want to quote. Or surround the quote like this: [code][quote] the quote goes here [/quote][/code]
qfnol31 Posted January 11, 2006 Author Posted January 11, 2006 Star Trek DS9 has given a great show on all this! I'm watching it right now, in fact.
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