The Jews

[Aloysius]

The first covenant was not revoked, it was fulfilled. The New Covenant IS God's covenant with humanity, there is no old covenant in force because the New Covenant replaced it. It fulfills all that God promised to the Jewish people; they rejected the completion of their covenant and still try to follow it as it was prior to its being completed.

The promises God made to His people are fulfilled, God held up His end of the bargain, gave them a New Israel (the Church) with dominion over the whole world. That the promises He made to His people are now extended equally to all people does not take away from this, God never said "I'll do these things and only let you share in them" He just said "I'll do these things", and He did.

The Jewish religion left the covenant when God fulfilled it.

The Jewish people are still the "chosen people" and have a great place available for them in the Catholic Church as such. They're not better or worse than the gentiles, though.

[hyperdulia again]

[quote name='Aloysius' post='1404868' date='Oct 18 2007, 02:09 PM'][b] That the promises He made to His people are [size=7]not [/size]extended equally to all people does not take away from this[/b], God never said "I'll do these things and only let you share in them" He just said "I'll do these things", and He did.[/quote]

The rest of this post I agree with. You do not mean this sentence, right?

[Aloysius]

what are you talking about? that's a w, not a t.

lol, it's nice to be able to edit without it saying so.

definitely a typo.

[hyperdulia again]

*wipes brow*

I was afraid you'd have to stop being my Beloved Al.

[hyperdulia again]

[quote name='hyperdulia again' post='1404838' date='Oct 18 2007, 01:19 PM']The Talmud is NO LONGER the primary authority in Orthodox Judaism. The Shulchan Aruch (which for some has been superseded by the Kitzur Shulchan Aruch and other texts) is primary and definitive commentary on Rabbinic Tradition to most Orthodox Jews.[/quote]


There is an irony to this insofar as the Shulchan is a commentary on the Talmud...but it has nonetheless displaced it (in much the same way that Torah was displaced by the Talmud itself).

[hyperdulia again]

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Edited October 18, 2007 by hyperdulia again