simplemama Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 as far as i know it has no endorcement from the vatacin. lots of the revelations were from a discredited mystic, rose somebody. we were just talking about this on another group im in. ill see if i can find some good links
simplemama Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 (edited) whenever i hear about this, im like.....what about homeless people?? nomadic herders, people who have no access to a blessed candle supply........people in Haiti who live in cement block houses with no screens or glass in their windows, people who live in huts in africa, the little child out on his swing inthe backyard.....kinda sounds like hysteria to me....almost protestantish Edited February 21, 2006 by simplemama
KnightofChrist Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 [quote name='simplemama' date='Feb 21 2006, 02:11 PM']as far as i know it has no endorcement from the vatacin. lots of the revelations were from a discredited mystic, rose somebody. we were just talking about this on another group im in. ill see if i can find some good links [right][snapback]893936[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I have no idea this rose person is, no one here has quoted her, she has nothing to do with what has been quoted. I quoted Saints and blesseds of Holy Mother Church... Rose whomever she is may have seen used the Saints and Blesseds "visions" for her own unjust gain... but that does not make these Saints and Blessed liars... The Vatican may have not endorced these "visions". But the Sacred Scriptures and Church teachings hold the primacy of place in what we are to understand about the end times. Moreover, the writings of the early Fathers (Patristic) and the Saints have much to say about the end times also. The Church does not censure the study of these private revelations, in so long as the prophecy comes from a virtuous source, I believe Saints and Blesseds decarled by Holy Mother Church to be a virtuous source. However, the Church teaches us to approach any end-time prophecy with a critical eye, but a open eye as well.
KnightofChrist Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 [quote name='simplemama' date='Feb 21 2006, 02:14 PM']whenever i hear about this, im like.....what about homeless people?? nomadic herders, people who have no access to a blessed candle supply........people in Haiti who live in cement block houses with no screens or glass in their windows, people who live in huts in africa, the little child out on his swing inthe backyard.....kinda sounds like hysteria to me....almost protestantish [right][snapback]893939[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You should pray for these people, because the end will come and it will be deadly hysteria for many. Protestantish? Not quite sure what you mean, but just because protestants have made great errors in end time Prophecydoes not mean these Catholic saints are wrong.
ironmonk Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Something to remember about prophesy... Real True Prophesy from God can be changed by love. If it does not come true, that does not mean that it was not real. [b]1 Corin. 13:8 [/b] Love never fails.[b] If there are prophecies, they will be brought to nothing[/b]; if tongues, they will cease; if knowledge, it will be brought to nothing.
cmotherofpirl Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 The three days of darkness has been announced by several Catholic saints and is accepted as legitimate prophecy.
Sailahína Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 I have never heard of this before. Thia might be a good thing for my youth group to talk about, I think I'll bring it up.
Socrates Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 There's been all sorts of prophecies, and their meaning is not always totally apparent. Catholics are not required to believe or disbelieve this and other private revelations. Personally, I think it's a waste of time to get all hyped up about this. We should try to live lives of holiness and live each day as if it were our last, rather than worrying about staying indoors and stocking up on sacred candles.
KnightofChrist Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 [quote name='Socrates' date='Feb 21 2006, 06:02 PM']There's been all sorts of prophecies, and their meaning is not always totally apparent. Catholics are not required to believe or disbelieve this and other private revelations. Personally, I think it's a waste of time to get all hyped up about this. We should try to live lives of holiness and live each day as if it were our last, rather than worrying about staying indoors and stocking up on sacred candles. [right][snapback]894090[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I understand where you coming from, however it is not a waste of time to read prophecies. To get hyped up about them sure that would be bad. I'm frankly surpised at how very, very, very little my fellow Catholics know of Catholic prophecy, some even seem to have some kind of hate of Prophecy itself. I would say it would be a waste of time to be willfully uneducated. After all, having a blessed candle on hand aint that bad of an idea, and staying inside for three days and live would be better than going out and not.
nowak.chris Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 ok, just reading this, while I've heard of the prophesies, I haven't really looked at them. all the hype over apocalypic prophesy can be brought back to reason with one fact: your life may be required tonight, so why worry about (insert prophesy here). Now is all we have, as socrates has noted. chris btw These three days sound like nuclear war. all it would take is one desprate man (with a nuke), and we have several desparate nations with nukes. It will probably happen. in our lifetimes? In the next century or two? who knows?
Lounge Daddy Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 always a good idea to have a hanfull of blessed candles in the home
Lounge Daddy Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 [quote name='nowak.chris' date='Feb 22 2006, 03:00 AM']ok, just reading this, while I've heard of the prophesies, I haven't really looked at them. all the hype over apocalypic prophesy can be brought back to reason with one fact: your life may be required tonight, so why worry about (insert prophesy here). Now is all we have, as socrates has noted. chris btw These three days sound like nuclear war. all it would take is one desprate man (with a nuke), and we have several desparate nations with nukes. It will probably happen. in our lifetimes? In the next century or two? who knows? [right][snapback]894559[/snapback][/right] [/quote] nukes? ...it could be anything get a bunch of blessed candles - and every family should have a stash of canned food at all times anyway... you are [i]ok[/i]
Lounge Daddy Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 72 Hour Emergency Kit [url="http://www.glennbeck.com/news/02122003.shtml"]BAM![/url] read it and think Catholic... blessed candles, Bible, Holy Water, Rosaries, etc...
ironmonk Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' date='Feb 22 2006, 03:24 AM']nukes? ...it could be anything get a bunch of blessed candles - and every family should have a stash of canned food at all times anyway... you are [i]ok[/i] [right][snapback]894561[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I have been hearing a lot about "Old Faithful" blowing (it's basically a volcano in waiting) and if it does it will be able to darken the sky all over the world. Also the right size asteroid hit the ocean it would also make it happen. God Bless, ironmonk
misereremi Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 I've heard about this prophecy in connection with the supernatural events at Garabandal, I watched a video about it years back which freaked me out (did anyone else see it? the kids walking backwards at superspeed, the host just appearing in their mouths, etc?). The message that stuck in my mind was that we will receive the warning first, and see our soul as God sees it, and our fear will be in proportion to our guilt. As long as we're good Catholics, we shouldn't have any fears, or worries. well, I definitely need to stock up on blessed candles...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 Seems to me Garabandal is condemned by the Church.
cmotherofpirl Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 Seems to me Garabandal is condemned by the Church.
ironmonk Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 [quote]"Garabandal" magazine claims the Church looks favorably on the apparition, quoting from a letter that allegedly indicates the Pope "favors propagation of the Garabandal events." It actually appears that the letter, said to be signed by the Pope's secretary, was a perfunctory thanks for a book sent to the Vatican by the German businessman to whom the letter was addressed. In any case, what the magazine does not mention is that successive bishops of Santander, [b]the diocese in which Garabandal is located, have condemned the apparition.[/b] I know that some Catholics--perhaps including some readers of this E-Letter--will discount those condemnations, saying that we all should know by now how error-prone bishops can be: Just look at the mess in our own country! There's no need to argue with such folks because the internal logic of the apparition will settle things in its own way. One of the locutions received by the children included the prediction that there would be only three more popes until "the end of the times." The pope when that [b]prediction was made was John XXIII. Then came Paul VI and John Paul I. Now we have John Paul II, who, being John XXIII's third successor, is therefore the last pope.[/b] [b]A further locution told the children that John Paul II would live to see the miracle.[/b]The present Holy Father, as we all know, is frail and ailing. While he might live another decade, he might be called home at any time. Most of us will outlive him, which means we will be able to know with certainty whether the warning and the miracle occurred during his reign and whether he turned out to be the last pope. Although there are more than a dozen Indian casinos within easy driving distance of my home, I do not visit them. I have no interest in gambling. By the time I put the fourth quarter into a slot machine, I'm bored. I can think of smarter and more enjoyable ways to lose money. But I am tempted to lay a wager, with anyone who might wish to take me up on it, that there will be another conclave of cardinals and that from it another pope will emerge. I do not worry about losing this bet because I have every confidence that Garabandal is a false apparition. [b]If a new pope is elected, that will put the lie to the apparition's claims[/b]. This will doubly be the case if the promised warning and miracle do not arrive during the current pontificate. [url="http://www.catholic.com/newsletters/kke_030729.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/newsletters/kke_030729.asp[/url] [/quote] Ok... Looks like Garabandal is a dead issue. God Bless, ironmonk
Nicole8223 Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 [quote name='misereremi' date='Feb 22 2006, 09:18 AM']I've heard about this prophecy in connection with the supernatural events at Garabandal, I watched a video about it years back which freaked me out (did anyone else see it? the kids walking backwards at superspeed, the host just appearing in their mouths, etc?). The message that stuck in my mind was that we will receive the warning first, and see our soul as God sees it, and our fear will be in proportion to our guilt. As long as we're good Catholics, we shouldn't have any fears, or worries. well, I definitely need to stock up on blessed candles... [right][snapback]894674[/snapback][/right] [/quote] That's the story I heard. I never knew the 3 days of darkness were connected to other saints. I saw the movie, and it scared the heck out of me, too. When the Blessed Mother appears, she is always gentle and peaceful....that movie seemed like the complete opposite. I never gave it a second thought after seeing it. So, there's going to be 3 days of darkness and anyone outside will die? Is this the prophecy given to saints? I'm trying to not confuse Garabandal with the true story.
brandelynmarie Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 [quote name='Socrates' date='Feb 21 2006, 07:02 PM']Personally, I think it's a waste of time to get all hyped up about this. We should try to live lives of holiness and live each day as if it were our last, rather than worrying about staying indoors and stocking up on sacred candles. [right][snapback]894090[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I agree with Socrates, When people I know start to get afraid of the "END of the WORLD" & what not, I always say,"If I get hit by a car tomorrow & die, it will be the end of the world for me...If the world ends tomorrow, it will still be the end of the world for me... " I'm aiming for Heaven, Purgatory just means we're halfway home... : Brandelyn
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