Sojourner Posted June 2, 2006 Posted June 2, 2006 And the fashion, let's not forget the fashion. Those garments make quite a statement.
homeschoolmom Posted June 2, 2006 Posted June 2, 2006 Yeah, look how much time is saved in not having to sort loads of laundry...
ForHimAlone Posted June 2, 2006 Posted June 2, 2006 My spiritual director always laughs at how he has more expendable income now as a priest than he did when he was going through his dating phase.
cappie Posted June 2, 2006 Posted June 2, 2006 Salary....what salary..... you mean I should have got paid all these years.....
journeyman Posted June 3, 2006 Posted June 3, 2006 [quote name='cappie' post='995596' date='Jun 2 2006, 02:47 PM'] Salary....what salary..... you mean I should have got paid all these years..... [/quote] Father, please accept the smile you bring to my face on a regular basis as a down payment on the treasures in heaven which have your name on them [quote name='Sojourner' post='995520' date='Jun 2 2006, 01:04 PM'] You're supposed to sort laundry? [/quote] [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='995542' date='Jun 2 2006, 01:18 PM'] In theory. [/quote] you two crack me up
Pio Nono Posted June 4, 2006 Posted June 4, 2006 JMJ 6/3 - St. Charles Lwanga Normal starting wage in my diocese (I think) is between 17k and 23k. And yeah, though priests don't have to live poor like religious, some semblance of poverty is expected - it's a credibility issue. If I'm cutting back on parish programs but am going to Europe twice a year, that really cuts in to pastoral effectiveness.
Era Might Posted June 4, 2006 Posted June 4, 2006 Some Priests have personal finances independent of the diocese (such as inheritance).
Maria Posted June 4, 2006 Posted June 4, 2006 [url="http://www.diocesemontreal.org/archeveque/textes_officiels_arc/pretrestagiaires/2004pretrestagiaires_ang.pdf"]This page[/url] gives the details for my diocese. In short: • Archbishop and auxiliary bishops, • Pastors, • Parish administrators, • Directors of offices, services or departments, and their assistants, • Episcopal vicars, • Priests responsible for Missions, • Chaplains for migrants, • Chaplains for apostolic movements, • Chaplains for a private educational institution, • Parochial assistants, • Assistant priests responsible for Missions, and • Chaplains of religious or welfare institutions receive an annual salary of $19,540. Interns (an intern is a transitional deacon or seminarian working in a parish or Church institution, or continuing his studies and having received an appointment from the Archbishop) receive an annual salary of $16,860. On top of this, they receive $8,460 annually to cover room and board.
missionseeker Posted June 4, 2006 Posted June 4, 2006 [quote name='Era Might' post='996313' date='Jun 3 2006, 08:34 PM'] Some Priests have personal finances independent of the diocese (such as inheritance). [/quote] True. I know a priest who has a condo at the beach.
jezic Posted June 4, 2006 Posted June 4, 2006 priests are usually less than 20 and more than 10k a year. They get to keep most of it though. They don't pay taxes either.
Pio Nono Posted June 4, 2006 Posted June 4, 2006 JMJ 6/4 - Pentecost [quote name='jezic' post='996380' date='Jun 3 2006, 10:05 PM'] priests are usually less than 20 and more than 10k a year. They get to keep most of it though. They don't pay taxes either. [/quote] They do now, at least in the state of Indiana. There was a big fiasco with a Baptist church in Indianapolis which made all of its employees "ministers" (around 100, I think) and thus tax-exempt. They ended up in a standoff with the FBI, who eventually gassed them out of there. The state responded by removing the tax-exempt status of ministers (which, in my book, is a hidden blessing).
journeyman Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 [url="http://www.jknirp.com/money.htm"]http://www.jknirp.com/money.htm[/url] Posted January 26, 2003 Some Statistics on Priest's Salaries Median salary received by priests increased from an average of $12,222 in 1966, to $15,483 in 1999, and to $16,885 for 2001/02. Priests' median total taxable income and support likewise increased from $26,569 to $33,059 Statistics are those of William P. Daly, Director of Research for the National Association of Church Personnel Administrators (NACPA)
Thy Geekdom Come Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 [quote name='ReinnieR' post='995282' date='Jun 1 2006, 11:23 PM'] 15?? they have ThD's and PhD's 15? [/quote] Don't forget the STDs.
homeschoolmom Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 Who'd pay you more for having one of [i]those??[/i]
journeyman Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 maybe this isn't the place to post a follow up: Latest Statistics on Priests A new study of priests ordained 5 to 9 years is about to be published by NCEA and the Life Cycle Institute. Some of the statistics well worth pondering include: From 1990 to 2005 the average age of priests ordained in the previous 5 to 9 year study [conducted in 1989] rose by six years. Today, the average age of these men is 43. Today, more were born overseas than in the past; in 2005 17 percent of diocesan priests and 255 of the religious priests were born overseas. The percentage who had attended seminary college dropped sharply from 1990 to 2005. Among the diocesan priests it dropped from 61 percent to 37 percent. The number of diocesan priests who received pre-theology training in seminary rose from 17 percent to 47 percent during those fifteen years. Preparation for church administration after ordination continues to rate very low in seminary training. The vast majority of priests said their first assignments were “very helpful” or “helpful” — 79 percent of diocesan priests and 83 percent of religious. Many more priests in 2005 were serving as pastors than was the case in 1990. In 2005 54 percent of diocesan priests and 18 percent of the religious were pastors. In 1990 the numbers were lower — 24 percent of diocesan priests and 11 percent of religious. Of these priests serving as pastors in 2005, 36 percent of the diocesan men and 20 percent of the religious men are responsible for more than one parish. The sex abuse scandal has not damaged relationships with bishops or with fellow priests. The main damage (which was felt by only a minority) is a loss of trust in the bishops. On the whole, the sex abuse scandals have renewed the commitment of a majority of these men to the priesthood. Almost all priests reported that their priesthood is highly respected by those they serve, and almost all encourage vocations to the priesthood and religious life as much as possible. In 1990 the top five writers with most influence on priests were: Karl Rahner, Henri Nouwen, Thomas Merton, Raymond Brown, and Edward Schillebeecky. In 2005 they are Pope John Paul II, Henri Nouwen, Thomas Merton, Karl Rahner and Ron Rolheiser. In 2005, Pope John Paul II was far ahead of all others. When asked what would improve the morale of priests in their diocese or order, priests requested more support and leadership from the bishop, more gatherings of priests, and better spiritual direction. [url="http://www.jknirp.com/nupriests.htm"]http://www.jknirp.com/nupriests.htm[/url] Posted August 22, 2005 The Latest Statistics on Religious Life 1995 2005 Diocesan Priests 32,349 28,375 Religious Priests 16,705 14,137 Total Priests 49,052 42,528 Priestly Ordinations 511 454 Graduate-level Seminarians 3,172 3,308 Permanent Deacons 10,932 14,574 Religious Brothers 6,535 5,451 Religious Sisters 90,809 68,634 Parishes 19,331 18,891 Parishes without resident priest 2,161 NA Catholic Population 57.4 million 64.8 million [url="http://www.jknirp.com/latstat.htm"]http://www.jknirp.com/latstat.htm[/url]
Laudate_Dominum Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 [quote name='journeyman' post='1025538' date='Jul 16 2006, 03:30 PM'] In 1990 the top five writers with most influence on priests were: Karl Rahner, Henri Nouwen, Thomas Merton, Raymond Brown, and Edward Schillebeecky. [/quote] I just puked a little bit.. oh gawd... *barf*
Thy Geekdom Come Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1025526' date='Jul 16 2006, 05:22 PM'] Who'd pay you more for having one of [i]those??[/i] [/quote] The ACLU.
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