Are you a heretic?

[Resurrexi]

Are you a heretic?

[DAF]

What would happen if somebody said yes?

[CatholicCid]

In theory, wouldn't a heretic refuse to accept himself as a heretic and say "No..."

[Resurrexi]

Well, any heretic who knows of the dogmata of the Church knows he denys the dogmata of the Church. Therefore, though he would not classify himself as a heretic, he would not say that he denys none of the dogmata of the Catholic Church, unless he is in denial that he denies the dogmata of the Church.

[DAF]

Any honest person who wasn't Catholic would accept that by Catholic standards, they were a heretic. It'd be like a Muslim calling me a heretic. "Okay, sure."

[CrossCuT]

[size=1][color="FF6699"]Heretics are silly goobers!
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[homeschoolmom]

Change "y" to "i" before adding a suffix.
Holiness.... denies....

[Lounge Daddy]

Nope – I’m no heretic
But I am an infidel.

[dspen2005]

a formal declaration of heresy can only come from a bishop

[Eutychus]

Given that there has NEVER BEEN a full listing of ALL the DOGMA's from the Magisterium, EVER.

Not now, not then, how can one EMPHATICALLY STATE that you agree with each and every one, other than by signing a blank check?

[Jaime]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1019019' date='Jul 7 2006, 05:27 AM']
Change "y" to "i" before adding a suffix.
Holiness.... denies....
[/quote]


Suffix not suffex

[Era Might]

[quote name='Eutychus' post='1019103' date='Jul 7 2006, 09:36 AM']Given that there has NEVER BEEN a full listing of ALL the DOGMA's from the Magisterium, EVER.

Not now, not then, how can one EMPHATICALLY STATE that you agree with each and every one, other than by signing a blank check?
[/quote]
The same way you can say you agree with everything in the Bible even if you have't read it all. Once accept the authority of something as coming from God himself, then you trust that something on God's own word.

[desertwoman]

I'm a heretic.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Eutychus' post='1019103' date='Jul 7 2006, 09:36 AM']
Given that there has NEVER BEEN a full listing of ALL the DOGMA's from the Magisterium, EVER.

Not now, not then, how can one EMPHATICALLY STATE that you agree with each and every one, other than by signing a blank check?
[/quote]
You know, I'm pretty sure the Catechism covers everything. I mean, it covers the whole Creed...

[jswranch]

[quote name='Eutychus' post='1019103' date='Jul 7 2006, 07:36 AM']
Given that there has NEVER BEEN a full listing of ALL the DOGMA's from the Magisterium, EVER.

Not now, not then, how can one EMPHATICALLY STATE that you agree with each and every one, other than by signing a blank check?
[/quote]
Have you not heard of [url="http://jloughnan.tripod.com/dogma.htm"]"Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma" by Dr Ludwig Ott[/url]? The link provides a summary of 418 items of faith and dogma. This is a fairly well respected book.

It would take a lifetime for one to nit and pick over every item of faith to its fullest. Once you buy into Christianity, all you have to do to become Catholic by 'signing a blank check' is believe God set up a church to figure out all these items.... much as He did with the Jews!

Edited July 7, 2006 by jswranch

[Didacus]

Non, je ne suis pas heretique.

Je suis souvent en erreur personnel, je me retrouve constament en etat de pecher, mais je ne descend point dans l'abyme heretique.

(there's just not enough people talking french on this board...)

[Jaime]

[quote name='Didacus' post='1019230' date='Jul 7 2006, 11:28 AM']
Non, je ne suis pas heretique.

Je suis souvent en erreur personnel, je me retrouve constament en etat de pecher, mais je ne descend point dans l'abyme heretique.

(there's just not enough people talking french on this board...)
[/quote]

Tante pis pour vouz

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='hot stuff' post='1019130' date='Jul 7 2006, 09:06 AM']
Suffix not suffix
[/quote]
What are you talking about?

[brendan1104]

[quote name='Didacus' post='1019230' date='Jul 7 2006, 12:28 PM']
Non, je ne suis pas heretique.

Je suis souvent en erreur personnel, je me retrouve constament en etat de pecher, mais je ne descend point dans l'abyme heretique.

(there's just not enough people talking french on this board...)
[/quote]

Je suis de Buffalo, New York, mais je ne suis pas français. Je comprend, parle et écrire en français très bien. Je suis pas une heretique, aussi. Mais, je suis un ancien partisan de l'monsigneur Marcel Lefrebvre, dis j'étais un schismatique.

Tyler,

While dogmata can be used, please refer to the plural form of dogma as dogmas to make it easier for everyone. Also, one doesn't call St. Peter, Pope St. Peter I, because 1) there is no other pope-saint named Peter, and also there has been no other Peter.

Edited July 7, 2006 by brendan1104

[Didacus]

[quote name='hot stuff' post='1019270' date='Jul 7 2006, 11:14 AM']
Tante pis pour vouz
[/quote]

vous pas vouz

But I apreciate the attempt, thanks ilove-(hot stuff).

Et Brenden, merci de votre contribution. Nous sommes une rareter sur phatmass vous et moi.

Edited July 7, 2006 by Didacus