catholicinsd Posted August 28, 2006 Author Posted August 28, 2006 [mod]IceP--personal attack[/mod] South Dakota, as great as it is, can't play God, now or ever. Death is God's Holy issue, not yours or mine or the State of SD. I, a South Dakotan, can tell you all that the State can incarserate Eli quite well without shedding his precious blood.
IcePrincessKRS Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 The problem with your logic is that the punishment being meted out to this man is still perfectly in line with the Church and the Bible. Perhaps not the only option, and perhaps not the best option, but still a VALID and viable option. I don't feel the need to say any more that this because Al (and others) have certainly detailed this argument several times over in the last couple pages.
Anomaly Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1052206' date='Aug 28 2006, 03:26 PM']South Dakota, as great as it is, can't play God, now or ever. Death is God's Holy issue, not yours or mine or the State of SD. I, a South Dakotan, can tell you all that the State can incarserate Eli quite well without shedding his precious blood. [/quote]God has endowed human society with the authority to punish and even take life as a matter of justice. That fact is quite plain. That may make you angry for good reason. Human society may imperfectly mete out the just act of execution, but God will provide perfect justice in the end. Believeing only God can take life is creating your own rules and theology and ignores centuries of fact.
tojo Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1052188' date='Aug 28 2006, 03:57 PM'] The state does not have the ability to keep every murder criminal in solitary confinement, it is just not possable, there is no space for them, and no money. Your living in the "what if", and what if just aint what is, sorry. [/quote] I was unaware that practical difficulties determined morality. My bad. I'm sorry that my belief that they don't apparently provokes you.
Anomaly Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote name='tomasio127' post='1052296' date='Aug 28 2006, 05:14 PM'] I was unaware that practical difficulties determined morality. My bad. I'm sorry that my belief that they don't apparently provokes you. [/quote] Tomasio, Practical difficulties do limit the options and choices of how to behave morally. Justice and mercy must co-exist for either to be possible and imperfect choices are inevitable in this imperfect world.
Jaime Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1052188' date='Aug 28 2006, 03:57 PM'] The state does not have the ability to keep every murder criminal in solitary confinement, it is just not possable, there is no space for them, and no money. Your living in the "what if", and what if just aint what is, sorry. [/quote] That is completely wrong. The state (whatever state you want) may have an issue of overcrowding. However the overcrowding is due to a vast amount of criminals charged with non violent crimes. As far as money goes, (and this is a fun one ) it is more expensive to execute a criminal than it is to keep him/her locked up for life without parole. Let's not spread misconceptions Knight.
catholicinsd Posted August 28, 2006 Author Posted August 28, 2006 I want all you who support this senseless act of violence to come to South Dakota by tommorrow, and look into the eyes the family of the child of God whose blood you support spilling. [mod]edited for language--HSM[/mod] Holy God, Have Mercy on Eli Father of Us, Have Mercy on Eli Jesus, Have Mercy on Eli Executed Lamb, Have Mercy on Eli Divine Fetus, Have Mercy on Eli Holy Spirit, Have Mercy on Eli Holy Mary, Pray for Eli Mother of the Executed, Pray for Eli Our Lady of the Prarie, Pray for Eli St. Michael, Pray for Eli Holy Elijah, Pray for Eli Chester Poage, Pray for Eli All ye Native Dakota Spirits be with him Amen
Jaime Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote] DECLARATION OF THE HOLY SEE TO THE FIRST WORLD CONGRESS ON THE DEATH PENALTY The Holy See has consistently sought the abolition of the death penalty and his Holiness Pope John Paul II has personally and indiscriminately appealed on numerous occasions in order that such sentences should be commuted to a lesser punishment, which may offer time and incentive for the reform of the guilty, hope to the innocent and safeguard the well-being of civil society itself and of those individuals who through no choice of theirs have become deeply involved in the fate of those condemmed to death. [/quote][url="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/secretariat_state/documents/rc_seg-st_doc_20010621_death-penalty_en.html"]the rest here[/url]
homeschoolmom Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1052321' date='Aug 28 2006, 07:12 PM'] All ye Native Dakota Spirits be with him Amen [/quote] What the-?
catholicinsd Posted August 28, 2006 Author Posted August 28, 2006 (edited) [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1052329' date='Aug 28 2006, 07:17 PM'] What the-? [/quote] [b] All ye Native Dakota Spirits be with Elijah Page. Amen.[/b] Edited August 28, 2006 by catholicinsd
homeschoolmom Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1052331' date='Aug 28 2006, 07:21 PM'] [b] All ye Native Dakota Spirits be with Elijah Page. Amen.[/b] [/quote] I wasn't really having trouble hearing you... merely understanding you.
Sojourner Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote name='hot stuff' post='1052336' date='Aug 28 2006, 06:24 PM'] you know it makes more sense in bold... [/quote] yeah ...
catholicinsd Posted August 28, 2006 Author Posted August 28, 2006 To quote my grandma "Shut up and pray." Holy God, Have Mercy on Eli Father of Us, Have Mercy on Eli Jesus, Have Mercy on Eli Executed Lamb, Have Mercy on Eli Divine Fetus, Have Mercy on Eli Holy Spirit, Have Mercy on Eli Holy Mary, Pray for Eli Mother of the Executed, Pray for Eli Our Lady of the Prarie, Pray for Eli St. Michael, Pray for Eli Holy Elijah, Pray for Eli Chester Poage, Pray for Eli All ye Native Dakota Spirits be with him Amen
Jaime Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1052339' date='Aug 28 2006, 07:27 PM'] I wasn't really having trouble hearing you... merely understanding you. [/quote] well you are getting older
homeschoolmom Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote name='hot stuff' post='1052344' date='Aug 28 2006, 07:29 PM'] well you are getting older [/quote] Not as old as....
Sojourner Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1052346' date='Aug 28 2006, 06:29 PM'] Not as old as.... [/quote] Maybe he was worried about your eyesight. That goes with age as well, or so I'm told.
catholicinsd Posted August 28, 2006 Author Posted August 28, 2006 Holy God, Have Mercy on Eli Father of Us, Have Mercy on Eli Jesus, Have Mercy on Eli Executed Lamb, Have Mercy on Eli Divine Fetus, Have Mercy on Eli Holy Spirit, Have Mercy on Eli Holy Mary, Pray for Eli Mother of the Executed, Pray for Eli Our Lady of the Prarie, Pray for Eli St. Michael, Pray for Eli Holy Elijah, Pray for Eli Chester Poage, Pray for Eli All ye Native Dakota Spirits be with him Amen
Jaime Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1052346' date='Aug 28 2006, 07:29 PM'] Not as old as.... [/quote] I'm sorry but you'll have to speak up!!
catholicinsd Posted August 28, 2006 Author Posted August 28, 2006 So I take get nobody who call for this poor man's blood are brave enough to come the state that will kill him.
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