Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 i support it yes. but i do not support everything done by it. Like i support the crusades, but not everything that was done during the crusades.
bball33 Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1051751' date='Aug 27 2006, 07:19 PM'] What's to support? [/quote] Lol same here. What is to support? Granted, alot of people don't know the entire truth behind the Inquisition, but in that case, you need to state your view of what happened or what to support. Have a blessed night.
thessalonian Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 A modern day inquisition would have a different face I think. But some form of inquisition is acceptable to root out heresy in the Church in my view. As was said above I do not support all that went on in the inquistions but the general principal is not all bad.
Groo the Wanderer Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! **dum da DUM!!!**
thessalonian Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 (edited) I sometimes think an old fashioned barbeque is in order. . Today the laws of the state have no bite so perhaps that is why there is no inquisition. It would not motivate possible recanting of the error. Edited August 28, 2006 by thessalonian
Akalyte Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 i think we need a inquistion in our church. Liberals are getting out of hand.
Jaime Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 I've never heard of Axenstar but I'm not a big fan of heavy metal. so I doubt I'll buy the album
zunshynn Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 StThomasMore that doesn't make any sense. One can't "support" the Inquisition because it's over and has been over for sometime. Go read a history book. To support something is to lend it your approval and hope for it to be prolonged. You can't prolong something that's already stopped. The Inquisition is historical... it is what it is. You're obviously hoping we'll slip and say something stupid... so just cut to the chase and tell us what you're looking for. So if you mean do we think there should be another inquisition then just spit it out.
chris Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 [quote name='zunshynn' post='1052410' date='Aug 28 2006, 08:00 PM'] StThomasMore that doesn't make any sense. One can't "support" the Inquisition because it's over and has been over for sometime. Go read a history book. To support something is to lend it your approval and hope for it to be prolonged. You can't prolong something that's already stopped. The Inquisition is historical... it is what it is. You're obviously hoping we'll slip and say something stupid... so just cut to the chase and tell us what you're looking for. So if you mean do we think there should be another inquisition then just spit it out. [/quote] What more can we say?
ardillacid Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 [quote name='zunshynn' post='1052410' date='Aug 28 2006, 09:00 PM'] StThomasMore that doesn't make any sense. One can't "support" the Inquisition because it's over and has been over for sometime. Go read a history book. To support something is to lend it your approval and hope for it to be prolonged. You can't prolong something that's already stopped. The Inquisition is historical... it is what it is. You're obviously hoping we'll slip and say something stupid... so just cut to the chase and tell us what you're looking for. So if you mean do we think there should be another inquisition then just spit it out. [/quote] sure you can. if your history prof brings it up are you going to defend it, or agree with him?
zunshynn Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 He didn't ask us if we would defend it, he asked if we supported it. It's the difference between asking if it happened or if it should have happened, which is a big difference. If my history professor "brings it up" in the sense of saying it didn't happen or is still happening I would probably tell him he was an idiot and leave. If he "brings it up" in the sense of speculating if i was good or bad I would probably say an inquisition in and of itself is not necessarily bad, however most of the activities that took place in 'The Inquisition' were not things to be defended. StThomasMore's question as such is a stupid one, and I think he knows that.
bball33 Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 [quote name='zunshynn' post='1052610' date='Aug 29 2006, 12:20 AM'] He didn't ask us if we would defend it, he asked if we supported it. It's the difference between asking if it happened or if it should have happened, which is a big difference. If my history professor "brings it up" in the sense of saying it didn't happen or is still happening I would probably tell him he was an idiot and leave. If he "brings it up" in the sense of speculating if i was good or bad I would probably say an inquisition in and of itself is not necessarily bad, however most of the activities that took place in 'The Inquisition' were not things to be defended. StThomasMore's question as such is a stupid one, and I think he knows that. [/quote] Hey, we need to keep it civil here. He has yet to clarify the intention of the poll, so until then, lay off the guy, ok? Oh, and if your history professor brings it up, why leave? I don't know your age, but calling your professor an idiot and walking out is the death penalty for college classes these days. Get real.
Aloysius Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 you yourself just proved that his question is a valid one "It's the difference between asking if it happened or if it should have happened, which is a big difference. " CLEARLY, this question is asking if it should have happened. You can support things in history, you can condemn things in history. History is a fun topic like that. People still ask if you support the decision to go into Iraq... well, that's history right? Nothing we can do about it now... but you can still say "I support the decision to go into Iraq" or "I don't support the decision to go into Iraq" so maybe he should have used the past tense to be clearer. give him a break, reasonable people can understand what the question means.
thessalonian Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 I have to say I am rather surprized though pleased with the results of this poll. There are people out there who can look at the inquisition with a clear head.
Budge Posted August 31, 2006 Posted August 31, 2006 I cant believe that 78% that took this poll here supported this... [img]http://www.leestoneking.net/images/Church%20History/Huss_Burned.jpg[/img] So you folks have no empathy for the fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, sisters, brothers, who lost one of their love ones to Rome burning them at the stake for what they believed? You think this should be going on today? {this puts all the "seperated brethern" stuff really into question}
ruso Posted August 31, 2006 Posted August 31, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1054431' date='Aug 31 2006, 08:01 PM'] I cant believe that 78% that took this poll here supported this... [img]http://www.leestoneking.net/images/Church%20History/Huss_Burned.jpg[/img] So you folks have no empathy for the fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, sisters, brothers, who lost one of their love ones to Rome burning them at the stake for what they believed? You think this should be going on today? {this puts all the "seperated brethern" stuff really into question} [/quote] We supported the congregation for the the doctrine of the faith, no the old inquisition. The Protestants burned or hanged thousands of people by the same accusations, witches, heretics, many innocent people. In Salem they are not roman catholics.
Budge Posted August 31, 2006 Posted August 31, 2006 [quote]We supported the congregation for the the doctrine of the faith, no the old inquisition.[/quote] So when that office was under a different NAME, you DONT support it? Whens the cut off year you start supporting at? [quote] The Protestants burned or hanged thousands of people by the same accusations, witches, heretics, many innocent people.[/quote] Im not going to say Protestants were perfect either, many too often followed the example of Rome, instead of listening to Jesus Christ. No ONE can EXCUSE killing people for their beliefs....Jesus taught the complete opposite.. uk 9:53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. Luk 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw [this], they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? [size=5]Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.[/size] so yes there were wicked Protestants. So why on this board do we have 80% now {I noticed it went up} saying they SUPPORT the INQUISTION. {the question isnt do you support todays office...}
ruso Posted August 31, 2006 Posted August 31, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Budge' post='1054550' date='Aug 31 2006, 09:25 PM'] So when that office was under a different NAME, you DONT support it? Whens the cut off year you start supporting at? Im not going to say Protestants were perfect either, many too often followed the example of Rome, instead of listening to Jesus Christ. No ONE can EXCUSE killing people for their beliefs....Jesus taught the complete opposite.. uk 9:53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. Luk 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw [this], they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? [size=5]Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.[/size] so yes there were wicked Protestants. So why on this board do we have 80% now {I noticed it went up} saying they SUPPORT the INQUISTION. {the question isnt do you support todays office...} [/quote] The old inquisition (catholic, protestant, orthodox. ..) is a verguenza for all the Christians, like the slavery. Is the main sample of the passed clashes among Christians. The congregation for the the doctrine of the faith is dedicated to orient. If someone persists in maintaining contrary doctrines to the teaching of the Church is proclaimed that it are not catholics, And if this attentive person against the dogma is excommunicated. It is not pursued, neither him is impeded to publish its works. That does not it occur in some protestant churches, tell us which are the good Mr Budge. We alone have a Church. Do not you confuse the support to the congregation for the the doctrine of the faith, with the old inquisition, various they have left the clear in their post. Edited August 31, 2006 by ruso
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