Do you support the Inquisition?

[ruso]

[quote name='Justified Saint' post='1056838' date='Sep 5 2006, 03:34 AM']
However, confessions given under torture were only valid if they were later confirmed. Thus there were false confessions and they were often revealed as such. Furthermore, the use of torture tended to be rather rare in comparison to what is commonly portrayed, so I don't think torture necessarily had the kind of effect on society that you think it did. In Spain, for example, the Inquisition was pretty popular and for most of its history its victims were those who would be considered on the fringe of society ("crypto" Jews, Muslims, widows, shepherds etc).
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Was not so "popular", many people has an atrocious fear to appear before her, at times years to your liberation spent. A mariner that travel with Colon to America, began to smoke in the street when the tobacco was a stranger in Europe and he was arrested, when they freed it, many people smoked. Fray Luis de Leon, a great wise Catholic was arrested acused of heresie, by the slowness of the inquisition was 5 years in prison.

[Justified Saint]

[quote name='Budge' post='1056840' date='Sep 4 2006, 06:50 PM']
Of course it was "popular", you had better say you like it else youd be put in the dungeons with the rest of those "fringe dwellers".
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The Inquisition was popular because of its spectacle nature. It was also in some ways a form of Spanish pride and elitism.

That it was popular because people were forced to think it so is just a silly and thoughtless idea.

[Budge]

[quote]The Inquisition was popular because of its spectacle nature[/quote]

Yes, I know people used to go watch burnings, like people go to sports matches today.

Does this defend the fact that over 70% of this board, are defending the Inquisition...

No.

[Justified Saint]

[quote name='Budge' post='1057055' date='Sep 5 2006, 09:29 AM']
Yes, I know people used to go watch burnings, like people go to sports matches today.

Does this defend the fact that over 70% of this board, are defending the Inquisition...

No.
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Who said I was defending anything? Just making some historical observations. You can make of them what you will, but I have noticed that the historical facts might as well mean just about anything (i.e. meaningless) so long as you can twist them one way or another.

[Budge]

so do you support the Inquisition or not?

Yes or No?

Over 70% of your board mates do even as desperate as you are to deflect from that fact.

[Justified Saint]

[quote name='Budge' post='1057076' date='Sep 5 2006, 09:55 AM']
so do you support the Inquisition or not?

Yes or No?

Over 70% of your board mates do even as desperate as you are to deflect from that fact.
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No desperation or deflecting here. And I don't speak on behalf of other people who post here.

As to the question, it is a bad question (or otherwise unclear) so to answer it would be to acknowledge its validity (and thus I haven't voted on it).

[Budge]

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As to the question, it is a bad question (or otherwise unclear) so to answer it would be to acknowledge its validity (and thus I haven't voted on it).[/quote]

Sure you didnt answer, they teach you in Jesuit/Opus Dei school not to paint yourself into corners. :