thessalonian Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1078288' date='Sep 28 2006, 06:01 PM'] Amazing what happens when people chuck the Bible over board for oral traditions and old wives tales. [/quote] Another protestant strawman. Amazing what happens when Protestants pass around that same old loaf of anti-catholic fruitcake.
Farsight one Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1078276' date='Sep 28 2006, 05:53 PM'] [size=2]Pr 25:2 ¶ It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter[/size][/quote]That quote says nothing about the bible and as such has nothing to do with the request to provide us with a bible quote that says use only the bible. [quote]john 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.[/quote] This one at least says to use the bible, but no where does it say to use ONLY the bible. Try again.
Budge Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) [img]http://www.exquisine.de/net/artikel/bilder/steak.jpg[/img] Maybe next time Ill use a pictogram... Edited September 28, 2006 by Budge
cmotherofpirl Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 Matthew 26: 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. It doesn't list the things commanded. John 21 25And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. The Bible doesn't contain all knowledge of Jesus, it never was supposed to. It is a collection, put together by the Catolic Church, from the writings of Oral Traditions of the Church.
Budge Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 [quote] This one at least says to use the bible, but no where does it say to use ONLY the bible. Try again.[/quote] I have a bunch of threads here going at once, but didnt you admit to being a Buddhist-Catholic? Looks like youve gone WAY BEYOND THE BIBLE. [img]http://www.budovideos.com/images/covers/8916.jpg[/img]
Guest T-Bone Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1078305' date='Sep 28 2006, 04:09 PM'] [img]http://www.exquisine.de/net/artikel/bilder/steak.jpg[/img] Maybe next time Ill use a pictogram... [/quote] OK, I'll start addressing you by "[edited to avoid being banned from the phorum]."
cmotherofpirl Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1078299' date='Sep 28 2006, 07:05 PM'] The contribution made by the Catholic Church. [img]http://blogs.ipswitch.com/archives/red-stapler.jpg[/img] The Canon was well known, read and accepted by Christians before Roman Catholicism made it "official". [/quote] You always get part of it right : The canon was well known read and accepted by the Catholic Church, before the Church made it offical.
Budge Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 [img] OK, I'll start addressing you by "[edited to avoid being banned from the phorum]." [/img] wow no reason to get all feisty... Does it begin with a B?
Jesuspaidtheprice Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 My post was probably lost on page one, but here it is again: Budge, "Perhaps verifying this with historical data from confirmed sources could help 'sway' your audience. Else they really have no reason to believe you any more than you do to believe them." Remember these guys are about Tradition, so please, as often as you can, offer some kind of proof for your claim.
Guest T-Bone Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 It's about respect...It was a simple request.
Farsight one Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1078307' date='Sep 28 2006, 06:11 PM'] I have a bunch of threads here going at once, but didnt you admit to being a Buddhist-Catholic? Looks like youve gone WAY BEYOND THE BIBLE. [/quote]Hardly. I believe in some Buddhist teaching and precepts, but I am no Buddhist-Catholic. Way to not respond to the situation at hand by the way.
Budge Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 [quote]Hardly. I believe in some Buddhist teaching and precepts, but I am no Buddhist-Catholic. [/quote] So one can believe in SOME Buddhism and still be Catholic? {hey I already knew that} They have those who beleive in SOME Hinduism, SOME VOODUN..... Catholicism, the perfect MIX&MATCH RELIGION. So do you follow some of those Zen Jesuit monks they got?
Winchester Posted September 28, 2006 Author Posted September 28, 2006 [quote name='Winchester' post='1078282' date='Sep 28 2006, 05:55 PM'] I believe the Bible is sufficient. I believe that using the Bible alone that I can prove the validity of the Catholic Church. I believe that using the Bible alone I can prove the divinity of Christ and the Ressurection. It is sufficient. But it is not alone. [/quote] I reposted. Think I was lost in the shuffle.
Guest T-Bone Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 Yes, you can follow precepts that do not contradict the Church. (ie. respect for others (this may be a problem in the First Assembly of Budge), the importance of balance in one's life, etc.)
Farsight one Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1078328' date='Sep 28 2006, 06:25 PM'] So one can believe in SOME Buddhism and still be Catholic? [/quote]Some Buddhism philosophies, yes. Some of them are in complete agreement with Catholic teaching anyways. No killing? A precept of Buddhism [i]and[/i] any Christian religion. Once again, way to avoid the situation at hand.
SJP Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1078299' date='Sep 28 2006, 07:05 PM'] The Canon was well known, read and accepted by Christians before Roman Catholicism made it "official". [/quote] Evidence please Correct me if I'm wrong, but St. Paul wrote a [u][i][b]second[/b][/i][/u] letter to the Corinthians. You say Christians had the Bible before Rome made it official. How is it that the community at Corinth had the complete Bible before Paul authored his second letter to them??? These are legit questions Budge, if you have legitimate answers to such questions, you would not have to respond with name calling or sarcasm. So come on, lets have a real debate about this : : :
Norseman82 Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 [color="#33CC00"]Budge, What makes you believe the Bible is sufficient? Where is that in the Bible? Should it not be in the Bible?[/color]
Cam42 Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1078276' date='Sep 28 2006, 04:53 PM'] [size=2]Pr 25:2 ¶ It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter[/size] God has hidden the truth from the unwise... john 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Anyhow none of you understand what Sola Scripture really is... you mean it to say the BIBLE is EVERYTHING, we mean it to say that the BIBLE IS SUFFICIENT. [size=2][u][b] The church is not to judge the bible, but the bible the church.[/b][/u][/size] Just another Strawman floated by Catholics. [/quote] The funny thing in this whole post is that the strawman is not by the Catholics, but by budge....that is actually a belly shaker....geez I crack myself up. Ok, I guess that you have to understand philosophy to be able to recognize the nuance, but it is funny. Budge wouldn't know about that though, because philosophy is from Satan. Wait.....to label something a "strawman" means that she has employed a philosophical principle. OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!! BUDGE MUST BE IN LEAGUE WITH THE DEVIL!!!!!!!!! RUN, RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Budge Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 What is philosophical about calling a spade a spade?
Winchester Posted September 29, 2006 Author Posted September 29, 2006 I believe the Bible is sufficient. I believe that using the Bible alone that I can prove the validity of the Catholic Church. I believe that using the Bible alone I can prove the divinity of Christ and the Ressurection. It is sufficient. But it is not alone.
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