Liturgical Lay Ministers and Sacraments/Sacramentals

[Moneybags]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1197573' date='Feb 16 2007, 11:47 PM']wow, now that would be a real tragedy....[/quote]

It would. If they were united with Rome, the SSPX would make great and holy priests. There reverence is beautiful. It is a shame they are not part of the universal Church. They could do wonderful things for the people of God. :

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

So what if it is hurting the changes of reunification? The real problem is that it is blending the roles between laity and priests, even if it is not the intention. I have the same problem with eucharistic ministers. It may be that recieving in the hand and allowing eucharistic ministers, is not evil in and of itself (although it may be), but (in my experience) tends to promote sacrilege and it blurs the line between the ordained and un-ordained.

[Jaime]

[quote]o I am begin called uneducated?? maddest.gif[/quote]

Yes

But don't take offense, there's a lot to learn about the Church. You are apparently uneducated about the significance of sacramentals. That's ok. You've got time. You're young

[Sojourner]

[quote name='St. Benedict' post='1197576' date='Feb 16 2007, 10:51 PM']It would. If they were united with Rome, the SSPX would make great and holy priests. There reverence is beautiful. It is a shame they are not part of the universal Church. They could do wonderful things for the people of God. :[/quote]
Too bad they choose to separate themselves from the Church then.

[franciscanheart]

[quote name='St. Benedict' post='1197575' date='Feb 16 2007, 11:49 PM']So I am begin called uneducated??

[u]What I am against is not so much the physical action of a layperson administering ashes. I am against a layperson getting up in Mass and walking into the sanctuary to administer ashes. [/u] That is the main issue for me. For the same reason and because laypeople shouldn't touch the Eucharist, I don't like the usage of Extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion.

Above all, there needs to be a more clear separation of the roles of clery and laypeople. Likewise, there needs to be something done, like the addition of altar rails, to keep the sanctuary separated from the people. Only the priest & servers should enter the Sanctuary.[/quote]
So where do you want the lectors to go?


I don't understand this thing with the sanctuary, quite frankly. Lay people aren't holy enough or something?

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='St. Benedict' post='1197576' date='Feb 17 2007, 12:51 AM']It would. If they were united with Rome, the SSPX would make great and holy priests. There reverence is beautiful. It is a shame they are not part of the universal Church. They could do wonderful things for the people of God. :[/quote]
They can come home anytime they choose obedience over their own opinions.

[franciscanheart]

[quote name='St. Benedict' post='1197576' date='Feb 16 2007, 11:51 PM']It would. If they were united with Rome, the SSPX would make great and holy priests. There reverence is beautiful. It is a shame they are not part of the universal Church. They could do wonderful things for the people of God. :[/quote]
Do you need a rad trad label? I'm starting to think so...

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' post='1197577' date='Feb 16 2007, 11:51 PM']So what if it is hurting the changes of reunification? The real problem is that it is blending the roles between laity and priests, even if it is not the intention. I have the same problem with eucharistic ministers. It may be that recieving in the hand and allowing eucharistic ministers, is not evil in and of itself (although it may be), but (in my experience) tends to promote sacrilege and it blurs the line between the ordained and un-ordained.[/quote]
I think what needs to be understood here is the difference between the sacraments and sacramentals. It is not EVIL for a lay person to distribute ashes. Perhaps what would be better is CHATECHESIS... not banning lay people from participation in the Church (especially when She has said they could participate in this).