jeffpugh Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 I think it's a cool sculpture. First thing I thought when I opened the thread was not "what the heck is Budge complaining about now", but "ooh fascinating sculpture of Christ!". I don't think I needed any background of the piece to see that it was Christ in a glorious state. The earthy tones sort of make it look a little tangled but it gives a certain quality to it which is inspiring. After all, Christ took on the matter He created! It's a wonderful thing.
Mercy me Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 I'm with Sacred Music Man, I think it is interesting.
Akalyte Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Budge your still in a catholic bashing fest? you must be a miserable person if this is all you can do. I bet Catholicism is right at the top of your bashing list too huh? How sad. I can only imagine what kind of creed you've made up. Ya super pope. Out side the Catholic Church there is no salvation. Besides you can make up your own way to salvation. Christ already did that. You have not been given any authority so I advise you to quiet down.
Budge Posted March 23, 2007 Author Posted March 23, 2007 [quote]You have not been given any authority so I advise you to quiet down.[/quote] Hey if that applies to me, it applies to YOU. Anyhow that is how your church shuts down all thinking, all false cults and churches claim unaccountable authority of man at the top.
Groo the Wanderer Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1217612' date='Mar 23 2007, 09:19 AM']Anyhow that is how your church shuts down all thinking, all false cults and churches claim unaccountable authority of man at the top.[/quote] Sounds like Protestantism to me, actually. They place their tens of thousands of personal interpretations as the 'truth', each holding to their own version and claiming they are each correct. The Holy Catholic Church however, clings only to the truth revealed to it by God, through Jesus Christ, and guided by the Holy Spirit. Our authority is that of Christ, given to us to share in and spread his ministry No other church even claims this....wonder why?
desertwoman Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 [quote name='jnorm888' post='1217498' date='Mar 22 2007, 09:27 PM']I think it's dope. It looks real cool!!![/quote] Word. I really like it myself.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1217612' date='Mar 23 2007, 08:19 AM']Hey if that applies to me, it applies to YOU. Anyhow that is how your church shuts down all thinking, all false cults and churches claim unaccountable authority of man at the top.[/quote] So what about the true Church? Will it claim authority, or will it just go: "Whatever... " The true Church is authoritative. That's because Jesus gave her authority.
Budge Posted March 26, 2007 Author Posted March 26, 2007 Ok heres more weirdo Vatican art, this one is in one of the gardens it looks like it fell off a Nephilim Space Ship... [img]http://lloydi.com/travel-writing/italy/images/modern-art-vatican-rome.jpg[/img]
cathoholic_anonymous Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 You should visit the Pompidou Centre in France. It's got even more unusual pieces than this in it. Budge, this thread says nothing about Catholicism. It is all about the interpretation and appreciation of modern artwork. Interesting as that is, it's not really what this forum is for.
Budge Posted March 26, 2007 Author Posted March 26, 2007 I am trained in art. I believe that the type of art the Vatican chooses shows something about it. The big gold ball above looks like an eye of Sauron too...
theculturewarrior Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1219861' date='Mar 26 2007, 09:31 AM']I am trained in art. I believe that the type of art the Vatican chooses shows something about it. The big gold ball above looks like an eye of Sauron too...[/quote] The Pope is a servant of Sauron too?
hoosieranna Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 [quote name='Revprodeji' post='1217269' date='Mar 22 2007, 10:38 AM']what is a protestant doing saying WE have bad art..at least we have something visual in mass rather than just the big hats on the hat ladies[/quote] Hey, some of those hats cost a lot of money! The bigger and uglier, the most expensive.
Guest T-Bone Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 [quote name='Nadezhda' post='1220035' date='Mar 26 2007, 06:16 PM']The bigger and uglier, the most expensive.[/quote] Sculptures, or hats?
thessalonian Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 I find it interesting that when Paul came strolling in to Athens he didn't come in condemning their art and their altars. He in fact used one of their altars to explain Christ to them. He even quoted a pagan sage or two "kicked in the goads" "in him we live and move and have our being".
Thy Geekdom Come Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1219861' date='Mar 26 2007, 08:31 AM']I am trained in art. I believe that the type of art the Vatican chooses shows something about it. The big gold ball above looks like an eye of Sauron too...[/quote] You're right, the type of art the Vatican chooses shows something about it... The Vatican is obviously obsessed with: [img]http://faculty.eicc.edu/ckrumbein/images/rome98-creation-of-man.jpg[/img] Nudity... [img]http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/2/26/300px-Laoconte.jpg[/img] Snakes, pagans, and nudity... [img]http://images.worldofstock.com/slides/AAB1486.jpg[/img] Gold... [img]http://www.windows.ucar.edu/mythology/images/perseus_vatican_sm.jpg[/img] ...and more nudity! Not to mention severed heads... If only the rest of the world could see these and realize that the Catholic Church isn't at all the prude it thinks she is... : There may be some crummy art in the Vatican, Budge, but if you're going to claim that the art defines the organization, then you're going to have to consider all the art...and I've been to the Vatican...I think there's more art there than any other place on earth. God bless, Micah
Templari Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 What the hell is the big golden ball anyways? Well i do think that particular statue in question is rather ugly and i would not recommend supporting the artist in the future, i do think supporting artists in general is good, especially if that is jazz that people like.
theculturewarrior Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 [quote name='Templari' post='1220204' date='Mar 26 2007, 11:57 PM']What the hell is the big golden ball anyways?[/quote] It's the eye of Sauron. The Vatican wants the ring. :ohmy:
theculturewarrior Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 [quote name='Templari' post='1220204' date='Mar 26 2007, 11:57 PM']What the hell is the big golden ball anyways?[/quote] It's the eye of Sauron. The Vatican wants the ring. :ohmy:
cathoholic_anonymous Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 [quote]I am trained in art.[/quote] Budge, what does that mean? Does it mean that you have taken a degree in Art and the History of Art at a reputable university? I study literature and linguistics at Cambridge, but we are encouraged to learn as much as possible about music, art, and visual culture, as these inform our understanding of literature and language. I recently completed a study of cubist art, and I've discovered that a lot of the artwork that I don't 'like' has a challenging beauty of its own. You seem to be working on the primitive assumption that if it 'looks' ugly then it must be evil. I also remember the time when you wrote that the Turks must be moon-worshippers because they have a crescent on their flag. I'm sorry, but that kind of superficial assessment doesn't bode well for your art criticism.
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