Let The Demonization

[Budge]

[quote]and you hang out at chick carp sites... do you really think your opinion is valid on that topic???[/quote]

Why not?

I have a background in working with troubled youth many of whom were mentally ill.

But I dont ignore the spirtual aspects especially now as a born again Christian.

I warned you all weeks ago something was off about Full Truth, but you all gave me a hard time instead of listening.

Instead of understanding the spirtual aspects of what is plaguing him, you are all jumping on the psychology bandwagon like a bunch of secularist humanist liberalss.

[jckinsman]

[quote name='Budge' post='1249124' date='Apr 19 2007, 10:50 AM']Why not?

I have a background in working with troubled youth many of whom were mentally ill.

But I dont ignore the spirtual aspects especially now as a born again Christian.

I warned you all weeks ago something was off about Full Truth, but you all gave me a hard time instead of listening.

Instead of understanding the spirtual aspects of what is plaguing him, you are all jumping on the psychology bandwagon like a bunch of secularist humanist liberalss.[/quote]
Hi budge! You will have to forgive me , I'am new, and I have no idea who or what "chick carp" is? I do Know that this thread is more about the mental state of "fulltruth",from all of his statements! He was one of the first ones I responded to! From what I read,I do not think that the spiritual aspects are being ignored. You think ,that we are missing the fact he could be plagued with demons ????? Is that what you are trying to say? IF it is........To whom does he turn to??????? Or do we say "Go away, you got serious problems!!" ???.............If we go to the Bible, What does Jesus do with the people who are "plagued with demons??? ( or should I say "having issues with spiritual aspects") Jesus Shed his precious blood for "Fulltruth" as much as he did for us, RIGHT? Is it not better for one, who has sinned to come back to God then a thousand righteous men!?????? I thank you for "Accepting the Lord as your own, "personal" savior" As I Catholic, born again of WATER and spirit, I realize that I am human and my Natural instincts to help the mentally ill ,is to use a psychological circumfrence ,to circle the bandwagons and PRAY for those in need! Much Peace Budge! God has Plans for You! JC

Edited April 19, 2007 by jckinsman

[cathoholic_anonymous]

[quote]I have a background in working with troubled youth many of whom were mentally ill.[/quote]Budge, you seem to have a background in everything. When you created a thread about the Vatican's so-called 'pagan art', you announced that you are schooled in art. In threads about paganism and relativism, you wrote that as you were once preparing for ministry with the UUs you fully understand both pagan and relativistic philosophies.

I can't help remembering that in the thread on nuns, where we were talking about the value of silence to spirituality, you wrote that you were qualified to speak about this issue because somebody had once invited you on a 'FOUR DAY silent retreat'. (Capitalisation yours.) As you believe that four days in a monastery qualify you to speak definitively on monastic silence, I'm a little sceptical now when you say that you 'have a background' in something. To me, the word 'background' suggests that the person has been engaged in a particular kind of work for years. Being 'schooled' in something suggests that the person holds a university degree or equivalent qualification in the subject that they are speaking about. In all honesty, is this the case with you?

[quote]I warned you all weeks ago something was off about Full Truth, but you all gave me a hard time instead of listening.

Instead of understanding the spirtual aspects of what is plaguing him, you are all jumping on the psychology bandwagon like a bunch of secularist humanist liberalss.[/quote]

If FullTruth had broken his leg or developed a high fever, would you be 'understanding the spiritual aspects of what is plaguing him' or advising him to go to the doctor? This is part of the prejudice against mental illness - the belief that it isn't as valid as physical sickness and that it is a preserve for 'secularist humanist liberals'.

Anyway, who said FullTruth's problem is necessarily psychological? Schizophrenia isn't a psychological issue - it's neurobiological. If you were as well versed in mental illness as you claim, you would know that.

[FullTruth]

This thread sure has been entertaining.

Reading some of the responses have been funny.

Who knows, I could be scitzophrenic. My family doesn't have a history of mental illness, except maybe my mother - but she's seems more like demonically possessed. You should see the looks she sometimes gives me, absolutely chilling. And the fact she does whatever she can to 'humble' me by talking nonsense about me, all of it made up, except one or two facts which are true. But hey, all it takes is one person, right. I might be Schizophrenic. But I don't hear voices. One might think I look for conspiracies everywhere, but that isn't true either.

Afterall, I'm Cuckoo for CocoPuffs!

I just find the topics that I am learning about fascinating, and I like talking about them. One day I will compile all of this to tell a really good story as a video game. Uh oh, that could make people paranoid, right! I hope not. I hope they put their hope into my Lord Jesus Christ. He's got it in control, if what I talk about is true. I don't really know - I just love the coincidences and like thinking about them. It doesn't mean I know they are true or not. I don't have one piece of evidence.

I am still in a little bit of darkness, as I read through the Bible, God is changing me more and more.

Oh, by the way, I just want to say - 19 days lust free! Eat that devil!

I think the post should be closed down. It has served it's purpose.

BTW Budge, you're wrong about Pre-Trib Rapture.

When 'a christ' will come to the earth, and say that he is the messiah and that the rapture was wrong, you will flock to him - and that man will be the Anti-Christ. You will bow before him and accept him. He will, of course, tell you that it is okay to recieve a chip, because the mark of the beast is all about the demonic trinity (which is a lie wrapped in a truth), and you will gratefully recieve it. You will think you are smarter than those Christians who say this is not the Lord, because you will believe he is and the ones who say he is not are the Pharisees, not knowing God.

You've been warned Budge, and I hope you will recieve my warning and repent of your pre-trib rapture belief.

[zdog042]

This thread has taken a lot of interesting twists and turns, in six short pages.

Speaking of which, when I read FT's posts, it feels as if I am looking back into my past and reading what I would have written. FT, I recommend you find two somebodies, one who can help you spiritually with your demons and one who can help you mentally with your mental state. That is not written to knock you down, if anybody is qualified to talk about a mental state, it is me.

I don't know you, but reading a very small amount of what you have written and seeing others on this board pour out love for you, I have come to care about you. I can see in your writings the dissasociation and the compartmentalization that was in my own life, my own thoughts, my own writings. I am still working toward full health in Jesus, but he is helping me even now. But what helped me in the beginning stages were two people, one who helped me with my demons and one who helped me with my mind. Both were specialized in their fields, so they could not help me with the other aspect I needed help with, but together they were an incredible blessing from God.

19 days w/o lust is incredible. My longest stretch is 30 days. God-speed and blessings upon your struggle.

[jckinsman]

Congratulations to all men who realize what lust can do to your soul ! God calls you to have self-control! When you do, you obey our Lords calling to be true Men of God! I am truly sorry that everything is saturated in sex these days! Peace and many prayers to you! JC

[Budge]

Hey who warned you that he was OFF weeks ago?

None of you listened but blathered on. As for my background it is a very different one, and I explored different career areas. Not everyone takes an exact linear path.

I know schizophrenia is CHEMICAL in basis, but you cant diagnose someone via the internet even if he does have it. He shows more signs of having some type of Schizotypal personality disorder if anything if we are going to play the psychology/psychiatric disorder game. But even those DSM-VI diagnosis can be abused. I bet that one could be applied by most liberal agonostic psychiatrists to most Bible Christians.. I certainly have read enough of their articles to know they dont exactly equate certain religious beliefs to mental well-being.

He does need help SPIRITUALLY as well as mentally if that be the case. Why get angry at me for insisting there be some spiritual intervention. If he has been messing with demons-fighting them as he admitted in hand to hand combat, there will be BAD effects on the mind.

FT how am I going to flock to some antichrist on earth, if I have been raptured;)?

Edited April 20, 2007 by Budge

[cathoholic_anonymous]

[quote]I know schizophrenia is CHEMICAL in basis, but you cant diagnose someone via the internet even if he does have it.[/quote]

No, but you can suggest that he go to the doctor and seek an evaluation.

FullTruth was posting here during your hiatus from Phatmass. We all realised that there was something odd about his posts back then, so please don't try to make the claim that it takes you to notice that a man who talks incessantly of nephilim and the hidden mechanics of the New World Order has got some problems. Anybody could say the same. Even a Catholic.

[FullTruth]

Wow, you guys keep on talking about me.

You'd think, by now, people would stop talking about this.

Yes, I am Cuckoo for CocoPuffs!

Give me lots of drugs please!

Mmmm, Phorizine, and Prosac. Wash you blues away!

I love you guys. I get giggles reading all of these spiritual and mental diagnoises!

Edited April 21, 2007 by FullTruth

[jckinsman]

I've never been a big Coco-Puff fan! I bet you like the puffy cheeto's too! (another words full truth ,lighten up) You know ,if you truly love the Lord your God, You will seek him in all that you do! Do not expect people to respond to you positivly, when you make negative statements. You may think that you are Just telling people the truth,and they Need to hear it..... like budge can do. Ask yourself " Can they really hear me if I talk this way!? Do I really seek to know the truth? Do I like hearing myself talk? ..... If your motivation is to "educate " and "save" others, Please stop and think............ Christ might just bend down and start writing in the sand.................JC

Edited April 21, 2007 by jckinsman

[FullTruth]

[quote name='jckinsman' post='1251005' date='Apr 20 2007, 11:33 PM']I've never been a big Coco-Puff fan! I bet you like the puffy cheeto's too! (another words full truth ,lighten up) You know ,if you truly love the Lord your God, You will seek him in all that you do! Do not expect people to respond to you positivly, when you make negative statements. You may think that you are Just telling people the truth,and they Need to hear it..... like budge can do. Ask yourself " Can they really hear me if I talk this way!? Do I really seek to know the truth? Do I like hearing myself talk? ..... If your motivation is to "educate " and "save" others, Please stop and think............ Christ might just bend down and start writing in the sand.................JC[/quote]
That is what I am going to do from now on.

I won't put this stuff up anymore, because I know it has caused a huge hornet's nest in this forum.

I was just found it funny people just keep this post going, rather than letting it go.

I will not reply one more time on this post. Period.

[jckinsman]

Im sure we will meet again on another! May God's peace and Grace be with you!

[toledo_jesus]

[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1249032' date='Apr 19 2007, 06:45 AM']And I would like to add that it is often unhelpful and deliberately unkind remarks like that that prevent people with mental health problems from seeking appropriate help. [/quote]
flimshaw. It's reality. Fulltruth is text on a website to me. He puts his thoughts online and I am under no obligation to sugarcoat my assessment of them. This goes double when he seems to be crazy.
The man won't seek help. That's obvious. I don't think my comment was unkind, though I'm sure it was unhelpful.