The Bush Administration Responsible For Sunni Extremists?

[RezaMikhaeil]

Video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgYqxm22uRU

[Apotheoun]

Muhammad is responsible for Islamic extremism.

[RezaMikhaeil]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1281926' date='May 26 2007, 06:50 PM']Muhammad is responsible for Islamic extremism.[/quote]

[GodChaser]

Yes and No.

Bush is indirectly responsible with sunni extremeists, but it is the god of the Muslims that is responsible for sunni extremists, that god being Satan.

Bush is also a pawn of Satan, weither any of you believe me or not I don't care anymore. Bush is nothing but a traitor to the human race, and when he has to bow before Jesus Christ and declare him lord and saviour, I will be smiling.

I could go on and on about Allah being an [url="http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm"]Arabian Moon God[/url], but that link can do it better than I can.

[Paladin D]

I find it hilarious some people equate Bush = Anti-Christ, yet he isn't nearly as "evil" compared to the more notorious world leaders. It's just a bigoted statement from pinko commies who can't think of any good realistic insults. If Bush is the Anti-Christ, then half of the people in the world must be Uber Anti-Christs.

Edited May 27, 2007 by Paladin D

[Apotheoun]

Eventually people will begin blaming President Bush for the Islamic Jihad that finally led (after nearly 800 years of war) to the collapse of the Byzantine Empire in A.D. 1453.

Islam has always been violent.

[Mercy me]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1282195' date='May 27 2007, 03:39 PM']Eventually people will begin blaming President Bush for the Islamic Jihad that finally led (after nearly 800 years of war) to the collapse of the Byzantine Empire in A.D. 1453.

Islam has always been violent.[/quote]

Thank you for bringing facts to this discussion.

We should also take a look in direction of the Wahabi sect which pre-dates President Bush.

[KnightofChrist]

The next attack on America by Terrorist will be "Bush's fault". All because of the War in Iraq, blah blah blah. If we just sit down and have a beer and nice pleasant talk with these people they would be nice to us.

[RezaMikhaeil]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1282242' date='May 27 2007, 03:22 PM']The next attack on America by Terrorist will be "Bush's fault". All because of the War in Iraq, blah blah blah. If we just sit down and have a beer and nice pleasant talk with these people they would be nice to us.[/quote]

His administration funded the Jihadists in Lebanon, so what do you have to say about that? In nearly every other thread that painted every middle easterner as a "terrorist", that worked in favor of the Bush administration's policy, you had alot to say, now you got nothing good to say once it comes out that the Bush Administration actually funded Jihadists? Go figure...

Note: This isn't a thread on "is Islam a threat", "Are Sunni Muslims bad", "Is Islam Violent" or any of those discussions. Those are for another thread [which has been discussed a million times over], this is about The Bush Administration's funding of Muslim Extremists, the same extremists that they claim to be against.

Reza

[Mercy me]

I would hardly call a you tube video clip a credible source.

[GodChaser]

[quote name='RezaLemmyng' post='1282309' date='May 27 2007, 05:47 PM']His administration funded the Jihadists in Lebanon, so what do you have to say about that? In nearly every other thread that painted every middle easterner as a "terrorist", that worked in favor of the Bush administration's policy, you had alot to say, now you got nothing good to say once it comes out that the Bush Administration actually funded Jihadists? Go figure...

Note: This isn't a thread on "is Islam a threat", "Are Sunni Muslims bad", "Is Islam Violent" or any of those discussions. Those are for another thread [which has been discussed a million times over], this is about The Bush Administration's funding of Muslim Extremists, the same extremists that they claim to be against.

Reza[/quote]
Good Research Reza.

I commend you for scratching the surface of what the media tells you.

Here's a kicker for everybody to think about.

Osama Bin Laden was on the payroll of the CIA during the Clinton Administration.

Bush claims to be a Christian, but his fruits are sorely lacking. During Katrina, he puts one of his friends as the head of Fema, a friend who had no prior experience with mass natural disaster. You'd think, if Bush was a praying man, God would have moved him to put a more competent person to be the head of Fema.

It seems Bush has a total lack of Wisdom, something a Christian who follows our lord Jesus Christ would hold in his heart.

[Paladin D]

[quote name='GodChaser' post='1282333' date='May 27 2007, 08:28 PM']It seems Bush has a total lack of Wisdom, something a Christian who follows our lord Jesus Christ would hold in his heart.[/quote]

Who made you the Pope?

Even the most devout of Christians don't always make the right choices. I'm in no way a pro-Bush extremist, he's a politician like everyone else. However, I believe he's very sincere in what he does, no matter how wrong it may be. Many politicians are sellouts, this guy isn't.

Edited May 27, 2007 by Paladin D

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='RezaLemmyng' post='1282309' date='May 27 2007, 04:47 PM']His administration funded the Jihadists in Lebanon, so what do you have to say about that? In nearly every other thread that painted every middle easterner as a "terrorist", that worked in favor of the Bush administration's policy, you had alot to say, now you got nothing good to say once it comes out that the Bush Administration actually funded Jihadists? Go figure...

Note: This isn't a thread on "is Islam a threat", "Are Sunni Muslims bad", "Is Islam Violent" or any of those discussions. Those are for another thread [which has been discussed a million times over], this is about The Bush Administration's funding of Muslim Extremists, the same extremists that they claim to be against.

Reza[/quote]
In America Congress funds things, not the President.

Blessings of Pentecost to you.

P.S. - Islam would be a threat even if Mickey Mouse were President of the United States.

[RezaMikhaeil]

[quote name='GodChaser' post='1282333' date='May 27 2007, 05:28 PM']Osama Bin Laden was on the payroll of the CIA during the Clinton Administration.[/quote]

George H.W. Bush, also had him on the payroll if I remember correctly and was even involved with him during his CIA days.


[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1282341' date='May 27 2007, 05:48 PM']In America Congress funds things, not the President.[/quote] Congress funds wars, but the president also has a financial ability, as the CIA for years gave money to the Taliban and Al-Quida, as money was also trickeling to Al-Fatah [not the same Fatah party as the Palestinian PM is apart of], an extremist jihadist militant group.

Peace and Blessings to you this penecost also
Reza

[GodChaser]

[quote name='Paladin D' post='1282337' date='May 27 2007, 06:35 PM']Who made you the Pope?

Even the most devout of Christians don't always make the right choices. I'm in no way a pro-Bush extremist, he's a politician like everyone else. However, I believe he's very sincere in what he does, no matter how wrong it may be. Many politicians are sellouts, this guy isn't.[/quote]
I'm not,

But the bible says we will know them through their fruits.

[Apotheoun]

The Islamic religion creates its own extremists, as anyone familiar with the teachings of the Qu'ran and Hadith knows.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='RezaLemmyng' post='1282400' date='May 27 2007, 08:27 PM']George H.W. Bush, also had him on the payroll if I remember correctly and was even involved with him during his CIA days.
Congress funds wars, but the president also has a financial ability, as the CIA for years gave money to the Taliban and Al-Quida, as money was also trickeling to Al-Fatah [not the same Fatah party as the Palestinian PM is apart of], an extremist jihadist militant group.

Peace and Blessings to you this penecost also
Reza[/quote]
Congress holds the purse strings. Nothing can be funded without the whole Congress (or a committee within the House and Sentate in particular instances) knowing about it.

[RezaMikhaeil]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1282418' date='May 27 2007, 08:42 PM']Congress holds the purse strings. Nothing can be funded without the whole Congress (or a committee within the House and Sentate in particular instances) knowing about it.[/quote]

That's not true, what happens is that the administration is given so much of a budget [which has been used to support various networks, etc]. When Mr. Bush asked for congress to fund the war, it was just that, funding for the war. That doesn't mean that he didn't already have a budget. He doesn't go before congress everytime that he needs money for various purposes, rather he's given a budget from the beginning, and if he needs more, he asks congress for more.

[quote]The Islamic religion creates its own extremists, as anyone familiar with the teachings of the Qu'ran and Hadith knows[/quote] That's your interpretation of the Quran and Hadeeths, there's another thread about that, you're more then willing to discuss this in, if you'd like but this isn't about that.

...now back to the original issue, how can the administration say that they are fighting terrorists by aiding them financially?

Edited May 28, 2007 by RezaLemmyng

[Mercy me]

[quote name='GodChaser' post='1282333' date='May 27 2007, 07:28 PM']Bush claims to be a Christian, but his fruits are sorely lacking. During Katrina, he puts one of his friends as the head of Fema, a friend who had no prior experience with mass natural disaster. You'd think, if Bush was a praying man, God would have moved him to put a more competent person to be the head of Fema.

It seems Bush has a total lack of Wisdom, something a Christian who follows our lord Jesus Christ would hold in his heart.[/quote]

These comments are out of line. Who are you to say what kind of a Christian President Bush is or any other human for that matter.

I do not understand why people feel so free to attack personally people whom they do not know.

By the way, Katrina has nothing to do with this thread. If you have something to say on the matter I would be happy to discuss it with you if you want to create a new thread.

Edited May 28, 2007 by Mercy me

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='RezaLemmyng' post='1282309' date='May 27 2007, 05:47 PM']His administration funded the Jihadists in Lebanon, so what do you have to say about that? In nearly every other thread that painted every middle easterner as a "terrorist", that worked in favor of the Bush administration's policy, you had alot to say, now you got nothing good to say once it comes out that the Bush Administration actually funded Jihadists? Go figure...



Note: This isn't a thread on "is Islam a threat", "Are Sunni Muslims bad", "Is Islam Violent" or any of those discussions. Those are for another thread [which has been discussed a million times over], this is about The Bush Administration's funding of Muslim Extremists, the same extremists that they claim to be against.

Reza[/quote]

What a foolish and untrue statement I have never "painted" such a thing. You've put words in my mouth something you're always crying and wining about when others apparently do it to you. In other threads you charged that CNN and other News outlets as being propagandist, now their not. You can't live up to your own standards, always changing your arguments. Blah blah blah.

I dont care to waste time I could be making money going into a deep debate about something that has no proof. Bush is not a terrorist, nor does he support terrorist. No proof has been given to prove otherwise.

The only proof is that of the opinion of one man? Hersh offers no proof no documents no names, just statements of his opinion.

Edited May 28, 2007 by KnightofChrist