Are You Religious ?

[johnnydigit]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1461180' date='Feb 13 2008, 02:23 PM']The thing i hear alot now is christians saying their not religious. They follow this up with they have a personal relationship with jesus leading to God. What is it to be religious and are you religious ? Is their anything wrong with being religious ? Are people saying that their not religious denying their faith ? What divides the catholic christian and the non denominational christian ? It seems as if the catholic christian is saying their religious and the non denominatial christian is saying their not.[/quote]

hilarious thread! those protestants are just uncomfortable with "organized religion" aka the Catholic Church. they don't like tradition or authority. oddly, they are in fact organized, they have traditions they follow, and authority which they yield to.

"i'm not religious. i just believe in Jesus Christ!"
"i'm not fat. i'm just big bone-ded"
"i did not- have- sexual- relations- with that woman."


[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1472323' date='Mar 2 2008, 10:28 AM']I think its a sad thought because Jesus was sinless but was tortured on a cross for the forgiveness of sin. And purgatory from my understanding is way worse then the worst pain here, so i dont understand why Christ had to die for sin if were gonna suffer for our sin after this life anyhow. I agree we deserve to suffer for our sin but why then did Jesus come and die the way he did then ? If were going to pay for our sin when we die anyhow ?[/quote]

are you Catholic? if you are, you should read up on these as they are basic questions that have very easy to understand and logical answers. they are foundational to your understanding of Jesus and our faith. if you're not Catholic but Protestant Christian, well you should consider the Catholic explanations as they are critical to your knowledge of Jesus and the history of the Catholic Church, which is as important to any Christian as being Jewish was to Jesus. God bless your journey back to Him.

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[Guest]

[quote name='johnnydigit' post='1472365' date='Mar 2 2008, 02:53 PM']hilarious thread! those protestants are just uncomfortable with "organized religion" aka the Catholic Church. they don't like tradition or authority. oddly, they are in fact organized, they have traditions they follow, and authority which they yield to.

"i'm not religious. i just believe in Jesus Christ!"
"i'm not fat. i'm just big bone-ded"
"i did not- have- sexual- relations- with that woman."

are you Catholic? if you are, you should read up on these as they are basic questions that have very easy to understand and logical answers. they are foundational to your understanding of Jesus and our faith. if you're not Catholic but Protestant Christian, well you should consider the Catholic explanations as they are critical to your knowledge of Jesus and the history of the Catholic Church, which is as important to any Christian as being Jewish was to Jesus. God bless your journey back to Him.

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yes im catolic and according to some christians in a cult now. Pastor John Hagee who is from texas says catholics are in a cult. The catholic church asked senator Mccain (sp) to denounce him or stop takeing endorsements from him or something. Heard it on the news today.

[johnnydigit]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1472847' date='Mar 3 2008, 08:14 AM']yes im catolic and according to some christians in a cult now. Pastor John Hagee who is from texas says catholics are in a cult. The catholic church asked senator Mccain (sp) to denounce him or stop takeing endorsements from him or something. Heard it on the news today.[/quote]

yep. every religion can be called a "cult". "cult" actually isn't a bad word, people just think it is.

[i]Main Entry:
cult
Pronunciation:
\ˈkəlt\
Function:
noun
Usage:
often attributive
Etymology:
French & Latin; French culte, from Latin cultus care, adoration, from colere to cultivate — more at wheel
Date:
1617

1: formal religious veneration : worship
2: a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents
3: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents
4: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults>5 a: great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b: the object of such devotion c: a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion
[/i]

see there's really nothing wrong with being in a cult. he is too. every Christian is. now, what he probably intended to say was that you are in a group that is delusional and has false beliefs. right. tell them to pick up a text book and actually learn about our Christian history.

John Hagee is a complete nutjob. even before i knew what Jesus was about, i knew to stay away from crackpots like him.

John Mccain Hearts Pastor John Hagee..., a virulent Anti-Catholic bigot...
[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=77689"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=77689[/url]
[quote name='johnnydigit' post='1471902' date='Mar 1 2008, 01:27 PM']oh. my. goodness.

[url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=m8khCJTDD44&feature=related"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=m8khCJTDD44&feature=related[/url]

[i]Supposed * Christian * preacher John Hagee clearly states that he believes Jesus didn't come to Earth to be the messiah, that Jesus never claimed to be the messiah in word or in deed and that it isn't Jewish people's fault that they missed the messiah, because it's Jesus' fault for never offering.[/i]

"purchase my book on this shocking expose!"

crack. pot.[/quote]

[url="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gDibKu9cwCdKWIQ4MXDoy3Ab37-gD8V679LG0"]http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gDibKu9...Ab37-gD8V679LG0[/url]
[i]The televangelist, San Antonio megachurch leader John Hagee, has referred to the Roman Catholic Church as "the great whore" and called it a "false cult system" and "the apostate church"; the word "apostate" means someone who has forsaken his religion.

He also has linked Adolf Hitler to the Catholic church, suggesting it helped shape his anti-Semitism.
"What he holds about Catholicism in my mind is despicable," said the Rev. James Heft, religion professor at the University of Southern California. "I totally reject Hagee's view of Catholicism, but I don't know how widely known it is."[/i]

scary.

just keep learning and you'll know how to deal with the typical jabs people take. soon they'll be like shooting fish in a barrel and they'll look like deer caught in your car's headlights. eventually you might get a, "oh yeah? well.. well.. i know you are but what am i?!"

[Adrestia]

[quote name='S][N' post='1471729' date='Mar 1 2008, 07:35 AM']
Nope. I was Catholic for 21 years and then turned my back on Xtianity about 2 years ago. Never looked back.

Why? ...Can't believe in something that cannot be proven. The whole 'faith' thing (imo) is bull, and a copout...also I believe it makes people lazy to question themselves and their beliefs.[/quote]
IMHO, I believe it is quite the contrary. Faith requires continuous testing and questioning. Giving up is the easy way out. If it could be proved, it would be easy. Faith is not for the lazy.

[Deb]

[quote name='tgoldson' post='1476580' date='Mar 12 2008, 11:33 PM']IMHO, I believe it is quite the contrary. Faith requires continuous testing and questioning. Giving up is the easy way out. If it could be proved, it would be easy. Faith is not for the lazy.[/quote]


I agree. It was far easier for me to toss religion out of my life for 35 years and much harder to strive to be obedient to the Lord in all his teachings. I am a hundredfold happier now though that I ever was before. I don't believe I ever even experienced true joy or peace until I found God.

Tossing out God is a cop out.