kujo Posted May 13, 2008 Posted May 13, 2008 [quote name='Alycin' post='1526741' date='May 13 2008, 01:12 AM']Truer words were never spoken!!! Politicians disappoint. Always.[/quote] Maybe sometime we will be less disappointed.
Theoketos Posted May 13, 2008 Posted May 13, 2008 [quote name='Alycin' post='1526741' date='May 13 2008, 12:12 AM']Truer words were never spoken!!! Politicians disappoint. Always.[/quote] Maybe not Sam Brownback.
ironmonk Posted May 15, 2008 Author Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) [quote name='kujo' post='1524840' date='May 11 2008, 01:00 PM']Wow... This was really eye-opening. I think some of it was taken out of context (Such as Michelle Obama's comments as well as Barack's stuff about his grandmother), while other parts were just ridiculous (How many times did we have to see the clip of Ted Kennedy get Obama's name wrong? Is the implication that we shouldn't vote for Obama because his name sounds like Osama?). Still, the connection with black liberation theology is very concerning, as is his refusal to place his hand over his heart during the pledge (I don't really care about the pin thing, though). Interesting...as many of you know, I've been somewhat of an Obama supporter, mostly out of my utter dissatisfaction with John McCain; however, I'm really having a hard time thinking that I could actually vote for someone who is so adamantly pro-choice and who's dubious ties are so concerning.[/quote] It would be a sin to vote for Obama... the Church teaches that our first priority is life, second family, third social justice, fourth solidarity... So sound reasoning and sound faith demands that we first look at the Life factor... McCain wins in the first three items... obama loses miserably. To agree with obama's positions is to go against Catholic teachings. Obama is an anti-semetic/anti-white racist whose story keeps changing. If a man told me that his close friend and mentor of 20 years was Hitler, then I would know that man was a racist. Why is this so hard for people to see this with Obama and Wright? Maybe they haven't heard or seen Wright's hate (don't hate, appreciate) under the guise of a pastor? Lots on youtube. Obama first says that Wright is close friend and mentor. Then says he had no idea he was racist. Even though Wright has been preaching hate (don't hate, appreciate) for 20 years... even though Obama's book is about one of Wright's sermons... Then Obama knows he can't get around the lie... so he says "Yes I knew some of his views were controversial"... the story keeps changing... obama is evil... He is racist, anti-life, anti-family, anti-freedom. God Bless, ironmonk Edited May 15, 2008 by ironmonk
Alycin Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 [quote name='Theoketos' post='1527586' date='May 13 2008, 07:58 PM']Maybe not Sam Brownback.[/quote] He disappointed me when he announced that he wouldn't be running for president, after all.
catholicinsd Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 [quote name='ironmonk' post='1524614' date='May 11 2008, 12:55 AM']Obama (Been Lying)[/quote] That is blatent racism. Also, mods please bock that video, as we witness Nick Berg's execution at about a minute in.
Justin86 Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1529273' date='May 15 2008, 10:40 PM']That is blatent racism.[/quote] Actually blatant racism would be showing Obama as Curious George (someone actually did that). Ironmonk was just being stupid. [quote]Also, mods please bock that video, as we witness Nick Berg's execution at about a minute in.[/quote] Looking for any reason to silence the truth about your favorite candidate perhaps? Hmmm...
catholicinsd Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 [quote name='Justin86' post='1529277' date='May 15 2008, 08:53 AM']Looking for any reason to silence the truth about your favorite candidate perhaps? Hmmm...[/quote] No, I just don't we need to see Mr. Berg's death. Especially when it used for political gain.
Justin86 Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1529280' date='May 15 2008, 10:58 PM']No, I just don't we need to see Mr. Berg's death. Especially when it used for political gain.[/quote] Something tells me if it that pic made it into a video supporting either Hillary or Obama you wouldn't be complaining. Besides, I think the only links mods really delete are to rad-trad sites. The most they'll do, which is all they should, is put up a warning.
Apotheoun Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 [quote name='Socrates' post='1526495' date='May 12 2008, 08:11 PM']Sometimes it's best to look for inspiration outside of politics.[/quote] [i]Psalms 146:3-4[/i] Put no trust in princes, In mortal men in whom there is no help. Take their breath, they return to clay and their plans that day come to nothing.
IcePrincessKRS Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1529273' date='May 15 2008, 09:40 AM']That is blatent racism. Also, mods please bock that video, as we witness Nick Berg's execution at about a minute in.[/quote] *shrug* the video isn't even working for me....
rachael Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 [quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1529311' date='May 15 2008, 09:46 AM']*shrug* the video isn't even working for me....[/quote] korea?
IcePrincessKRS Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 maybe. But I'm not editing anything without seeing it first... so.... answer is no.
IcePrincessKRS Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 [quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1529326' date='May 15 2008, 11:04 AM']maybe. But I'm not editing anything without seeing it first... so.... answer is no.[/quote] Ok, I tried again and the link worked this time (server reset mayhap?) and I will add a warning to the intro post about video for those that may want to avoid the footage in question, but I'm not deleting the link.
catholicinsd Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 [quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1529333' date='May 15 2008, 10:16 AM']Ok, I tried again and the link worked this time (server reset mayhap?) and I will add a warning to the intro post about video for those that may want to avoid the footage in question, but I'm not deleting the link.[/quote] Very Nice.
rachael Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1529337' date='May 15 2008, 10:22 AM']Very Nice.[/quote] What? Are we here to censor everything?
ironmonk Posted May 16, 2008 Author Posted May 16, 2008 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1529273' date='May 15 2008, 09:40 AM']That is blatent racism.[/quote] Then you obviously have no clue what "racism" means. This is a prime example of a play on words... In case you haven't heard, there is an evil man named Osama Bin Laden.... Obama is a liar and evil, maybe not as evil as Osama, but God only knows what he'd do if he was a dictator... So calling him Obama Been Lying fits... it's funny, and it's true.
catholicinsd Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 [quote name='rachael' post='1529421' date='May 15 2008, 12:16 PM']What? Are we here to censor everything? [/quote] He posted a video of a execution.
Alycin Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 [quote name='ironmonk' post='1530003' date='May 15 2008, 10:34 PM']Then you obviously have no clue what "racism" means. This is a prime example of a play on words... In case you haven't heard, there is an evil man named Osama Bin Laden.... Obama is a liar and evil, maybe not as evil as Osama, but God only knows what he'd do if he was a dictator... So calling him Obama Been Lying fits... it's funny, and it's true.[/quote] Name-calling is for people who don't have valid arguments or can't make their points without shock value or being offensive. There is a wealth of information about Obama that can produce valid arguments and good points without stooping to name-calling. Don't discredit yourself. You have important things to say but when you say "Obama Bin Lyin" or whatever variation you may type at the time, you lose about half (if not more) of your audience because people immediately begin to question whether or not they can take you seriously.
IcePrincessKRS Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1530108' date='May 16 2008, 02:15 AM']He posted a video of a execution.[/quote] He did not. He posted a [b]thirteen minute [/b]video that contains [u][b]TWO seconds[/b][/u] of a still image of an executed man. Not wholesome family entertainment, clearly, but at least be honest in your assessment. Calling it a video of an execution is a lie.
kujo Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 Again, I think making fun of Obama's name (or McCain or Hillary) is unnecessary. I agree with Alycin...calling names adds nothing but immaturity to the discussion.
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