dairygirl4u2c Posted February 27, 2004 Posted February 27, 2004 (edited) Just a quick question. I realize this is a loaded question. And I realize that the Catholic Church probably doesn't disagree with me. But I just want to make a point to all the Catholics who say no, absolutely not. Are those in hell forgiven or are they not? Edited February 27, 2004 by dairygirl4u2c
jmjtina Posted February 27, 2004 Posted February 27, 2004 Those in Hell have rejected God's forgiveness and all mercy that God showed them. key word: rejected 1033 To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God's merciful love means remaining seperated from him for ever by our own free choice.
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 27, 2004 Posted February 27, 2004 Those in Hell have rejected God's forgiveness and all mercy that God showed them. key word: rejected Tina's so smart. :D :cool:
jmjtina Posted February 27, 2004 Posted February 27, 2004 Tina's so smart. :D naw.....i just learn from my fellow phamily including ma mamma nanna anna! :D
Lil Red Posted February 27, 2004 Posted February 27, 2004 naw.....i just learn from my fellow phamily including ma mamma nanna anna! :D :lol:
crazycatholicgirl Posted February 27, 2004 Posted February 27, 2004 That is a really good question, one I have never thought about before.
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 27, 2004 Posted February 27, 2004 naw.....i just learn from my fellow phamily including ma mamma nanna anna! :D lol You know, I see her sign e-mails like that all the time and stuff, but its never so funny as when someone else calls her that! Not to brag, but she is a pretty smart lady. ;)
littleflower+JMJ Posted February 27, 2004 Posted February 27, 2004 lol You know, I see her sign e-mails like that all the time and stuff, but its never so funny as when someone else calls her that! Not to brag, but she is a pretty smart lady. anna is da best. no one lays the smack down for our faith like Anna does! LOL katie you have a very amesome mom! :wub:
dairygirl4u2c Posted February 28, 2004 Author Posted February 28, 2004 That is a really good question, one I have never thought about before. You have no idea how many times I get that from honest Catholics. All they know is that we have to be good enough and then maybe God will forgive us. Granted, on a theological level the Church may not be wrong in this area, but on a practical level, her children are not being led to the basics! God loves and has forgiven us! Nothing we ever do can change this fact! tina. I want you to say either yes or no definitively that they are or are not forgiven. I know it may not sound like a big deal, but it possibly shows a lot that you didn't answer directly.
littleflower+JMJ Posted February 28, 2004 Posted February 28, 2004 dairygirl the way you get to hell is if you REJECT God Himself. she answered you fully and correctly.
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 28, 2004 Posted February 28, 2004 Flowery and Tina are correct. God forgives us, if we reject Him we go to hell. God is infinately loving and merciful so of course He forgives. Just because she didn't use the yes or no answer you want doesn't mean she didn't give you an answer thats 100% on the mark.
Lil Red Posted February 28, 2004 Posted February 28, 2004 Flowery and Tina are correct. God forgives us, if we reject Him we go to hell. God is infinately loving and merciful so of course He forgives. Just because she didn't use the yes or no answer you want doesn't mean she didn't give you an answer thats 100% on the mark. ummm, ya, what she said. you're good at this, Ice! ;)
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 28, 2004 Posted February 28, 2004 I should also add that that God is perfectly JUST, so if we reject Him and choose hell thats exactly what we get!
Carrie Posted February 28, 2004 Posted February 28, 2004 I second what Tina, Flowery, Ice and Lil Red have said!
cmotherofpirl Posted February 28, 2004 Posted February 28, 2004 Anytime we choose anything other than God Almighty, be it ourselves, a sin or another person, we are ultimately rejecting God, and choosing hell. If we change our mind before our particular judgement, God will forgive us. The chioce is irrevocable and final. This is NOT a rehearsal.
jasJis Posted February 28, 2004 Posted February 28, 2004 You have no idea how many times I get that from honest Catholics. All they know is that we have to be good enough and then maybe God will forgive us. Granted, on a theological level the Church may not be wrong in this area, but on a practical level, her children are not being led to the basics! God loves and has forgiven us! Nothing we ever do can change this fact! What? Not true! Granted, on a theological level the Church may not be wrong in this area, but on a practical level, her children are not being led to the basics! LOL! Catholics who bask in the fullness of Grace are really concerned about mere basics! That's like living in a millionaire's kitchen and being concerned about what the bare minimum you need to eat to survive!tina. I want you to say either yes or no definitively that they are or are not forgiven. I know it may not sound like a big deal, but it possibly shows a lot that you didn't answer directly.Just because it's a 'basic' question you have, doesn't mean it's a basic question for others. Nor does it mean that the answer you came up with for this 'question' is an accurate answer! God loves and has forgiven us! Nothing we ever do can change this fact! That's inaccurate. God loves us, and is offering His forgiveness. All we have to do is accept it. That's why Scripture warns us about recieving Faith in vain.
dairygirl4u2c Posted February 29, 2004 Author Posted February 29, 2004 It appears the CC teaches that you have to do something to be forgiven after all. How sad. Anywho, Tina didn't answer my question straight forwardly. She said that the souls in hell have rejected God's forgiveness. Pretty ambiguous. Did she mean they rejected his forgiveness when they were indeed objectively forgiven? Or did they reject asking and thereby never recieved forgiveness at all?
Aloysius Posted February 29, 2004 Posted February 29, 2004 they didn't RECEIVE it, it was granted them by God. it's like if i mail a package to someone as a gift, if they don't sign for it it gets sent back to me.
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