jmjtina Posted March 4, 2004 Posted March 4, 2004 [quote name='phatcatholic' date='Mar 3 2004, 01:36 AM'] dairygirl, can you please provide scriptural support and/or early christian testimony to defend your recent posts in this thread. it will also be very helpful if you will define your terminology, b/c it has become apparent to me that we have drastically different definitions for words like "forgiven" and "saved". w/o your proof and these clarifications, your posts are often difficult for me to understand. for example: as i requested earlier, can you please explain what you are accusing the Church of here, and prove why this is particularly "sad"? didn't u just chastise for "doing something" in order to be forgiven, yet here you defend works for salvation? please explain this apparent contradiction, and prove your claim we are "saved by works of charity" also, in response to the statement, "we are forgiven if we have repented and made satisfaction for our sins," you replied by stating: proof please! why is this sad? i don't understand these statements either. again, providing scriptural support and definitions for your terminology (particularly the words "saved" and "forgiven") will help this dialogue tremendously. thank you and may God Bless You, phatcatholic [/quote]
dairygirl4u2c Posted March 4, 2004 Author Posted March 4, 2004 tina and all, I just wanted to note that I am not posting here since I am posting the same topic in former seminarian forgiven section
littleflower+JMJ Posted March 4, 2004 Posted March 4, 2004 [quote name='jmjtina' date='Mar 3 2004, 11:17 PM'] Everyone is forgiven. agreed. Does everyone accept the forgiveness? No. People in Hell have [b]rejected[/b] God's forgiveness, even though they have been forgiven. Out of their own [i]free will[/i] the people in Hell have rejected His love and Mercy. So let me ask you this....do you believe in Hell? If so, then who goes there? If not, why? And how did you come to the conclusion? Peace and God Bless. and I also await your responses to phatcatholic. Please define and be clear of what you say because most of the time I have no clue as to what you mean. [/quote] do you believe in hell dairygirl?
dairygirl4u2c Posted March 5, 2004 Author Posted March 5, 2004 Yes I do. As I said, go to the "Former Seminarian Forgiven" thread to see what my reply is.
phatcatholic Posted March 5, 2004 Posted March 5, 2004 can someone just close this thread please. i think we are done w/ it. thanks, phatcatholic
IcePrincessKRS Posted March 5, 2004 Posted March 5, 2004 [quote name='phatcatholic' date='Mar 4 2004, 09:23 PM'] can someone just close this thread please. i think we are done w/ it. thanks, phatcatholic [/quote] As requested, this thread is closed.
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