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Noel's angel
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I got my black belt when I was 13...lol But I had trained at least 2 nights a week for 7 years before I could get it. I did the same grading as all the over 18s. You could say I was a special case....lol. I was teaching over 18s by the time I was 12.
My sensei told us that his sensei failed everyone 3 times before he would even consider allowing them to wear a black belt.

Nihil Obstat
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[quote name='Noel's angel' post='1582084' date='Jun 24 2008, 06:48 PM']I got my black belt when I was 13...lol But I had trained at least 2 nights a week for 7 years before I could get it. I did the same grading as all the over 18s. You could say I was a special case....lol. I was teaching over 18s by the time I was 12.
My sensei told us that his sensei failed everyone 3 times before he would even consider allowing them to wear a black belt.[/quote]
Lol, all right. I don't know the circumstances, but if you say it was a special case, I'll trust you.
I've been going two days a week for about five or six years, had been once a week before that (when I was little;)). In my club you're not considered eligible to be tested until at least sixteen, and even after sixteen, it's still up to your sensei if you test or not.
I only tested a week and a half ago... and passed. :D I was proud. It was a pretty tough test though.
We tend to look down on those fast track clubs more than a little bit. :P

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[quote name='havok579257' post='1582014' date='Jun 24 2008, 07:26 PM']Because of my training, my arms are like 19 inches and my chest is like 53 inches.[/quote]
You have short arms.

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Bow to your sensei!
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Noel's angel
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[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1582094' date='Jun 25 2008, 01:51 AM']Lol, all right. I don't know the circumstances, but if you say it was a special case, I'll trust you.
I've been going two days a week for about five or six years, had been once a week before that (when I was little;)). In my club you're not considered eligible to be tested until at least sixteen, and even after sixteen, it's still up to your sensei if you test or not.
I only tested a week and a half ago... and passed. :D I was proud. It was a pretty tough test though.
We tend to look down on those fast track clubs more than a little bit. :P[/quote]

No other person under 18 has done a senior black belt grading in our association.
Congrats! There's a Shotokan club in my town and people there get their black belt in 2 years. I laugh at them.
I remember my black belt grading. 3 and 1/2 hours long, in front of a European Champion, a World Master, one of the leading martial artists in Ireland and Iain Abernethy...then we had to spar and do fitness testing, and finally a test on our Japanese language skills and an essay. 'Twas fun :)

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Nihil Obstat
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[quote name='Noel's angel' post='1582110' date='Jun 24 2008, 06:56 PM']No other person under 18 has done a senior black belt grading in our association.
Congrats! There's a Shotokan club in my town and people there get their black belt in 2 years. I laugh at them.
I remember my black belt grading. 3 and 1/2 hours long, in front of a European Champion, a World Master, one of the leading martial artists in Ireland and Iain Abernethy...then we had to spar and do fitness testing, and finally a test on our Japanese language skills and an essay. 'Twas fun :)[/quote]
Sounds like it. :D I'll definitely accept that this was a special case.
I actually have a video on YouTube from... Earlier November this year. Before my test. It was a tournament I was at. Just a little one.
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trM8PvcOOXA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trM8PvcOOXA[/url]
I was wondering if I should post it or not, but there's no identifying info that isn't already sitting out there on the internet.

Nihil Obstat
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[quote name='Winchester' post='1582098' date='Jun 24 2008, 06:52 PM']You have short arms.[/quote]
Rofl.

TeresaBenedicta
Posted

One of the priests at my school is a black belt in some form of martial arts, and at one point, had founded a school with his brother.

I did Kyokushin Karate during the Fall semester last year and I really enjoyed myself. I could not train during my Spring semester due to softball, but I plan on training again starting this Fall.

And ditto to everyone else who's replied here: I see nothing necessarily contradicting the Church. In and of itself, it's a good thing.

Nihil Obstat
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[quote name='TeresaBenedicta' post='1582136' date='Jun 24 2008, 07:13 PM']I did Kyokushin Karate during the Fall semester last year and I really enjoyed myself. I could not train during my Spring semester due to softball, but I plan on training again starting this Fall.[/quote]
Ooh, wow, isn't that one the school that does a lot of hard free sparring?

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I thought this would be about the whole Eastern philosophies/religion thing (much like those yoga debates).

But bottom line - as established elsewhere, Christianity does not equal pacifism. There is nothing wrong with using physical force when necessary (whether by martial arts, or firearms, etc.) to defend oneself or others against an attacker.
People have a right to self-defense.

Btw - I've been taking Brazilian Jiu-jitsu over the past year, and loving it!

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Nihil Obstat
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Well it's not as interesting if no one disagrees, but it makes everyone happier. :)
Yea, I wasn't talking Eastern philosophy because I just haven't seen that.
I suppose if it was apparent, then there'd be some conflict there... moreso in yoga, I suppose, but only in cases where the yoga is a form of religion. Not really so much the way we have these days, where yoga is practiced 100% as a form of exercise and relaxation.
Off topic though.
I love karate. :) I also love the confidence and personal growth that goes with it.

TeresaBenedicta
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[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1582140' date='Jun 24 2008, 09:15 PM']Ooh, wow, isn't that one the school that does a lot of hard free sparring?[/quote]

Well, we do happen to sparr quite a bit. But I haven't much to compare it to, seeing as this has been my first experience with Karate. During our first... erm... I forget the term, but it's where people test and the different dojos come together... anywho, it was my first time sparring and I went against a guy testing for his purple belt. Broke my foot. :/ Well, fractured, more like. And I couldn't tell my coach, because I wasn't technically supposed to be doing karate since I'm on scholarship for softball. That was bad-- playing softball with a broken foot.

Nihil Obstat
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[quote name='TeresaBenedicta' post='1582401' date='Jun 24 2008, 10:13 PM']Well, we do happen to sparr quite a bit. But I haven't much to compare it to, seeing as this has been my first experience with Karate. During our first... erm... I forget the term, but it's where people test and the different dojos come together... anywho, it was my first time sparring and I went against a guy testing for his purple belt. Broke my foot. :/ Well, fractured, more like. And I couldn't tell my coach, because I wasn't technically supposed to be doing karate since I'm on scholarship for softball. That was bad-- playing softball with a broken foot.[/quote]
Ouch. :S
Well form what I've read, that style does a lot more sparring, and a lot more intense sparring than most styles of karate. A lot of styles will have only light to no contact most of the time. At most only medium contact.

TeresaBenedicta
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[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1582404' date='Jun 25 2008, 12:14 AM']Ouch. :S
Well form what I've read, that style does a lot more sparring, and a lot more intense sparring than most styles of karate. A lot of styles will have only light to no contact most of the time. At most only medium contact.[/quote]

Haha, okay, then definitely not how we spar then.

I mean, obviously we're not there to hurt anyone. But, yeah. We definitely go pretty hard. And no padding, besides the head-gear.

Nihil Obstat
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[quote name='TeresaBenedicta' post='1582569' date='Jun 25 2008, 12:11 AM']Haha, okay, then definitely not how we spar then.

I mean, obviously we're not there to hurt anyone. But, yeah. We definitely go pretty hard. And no padding, besides the head-gear.[/quote]
More than I do then. :) I do light contact. We don't wear head protection because the atmosphere just... doesn't require that.

TeresaBenedicta
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[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1582571' date='Jun 25 2008, 02:13 AM']More than I do then. :) I do light contact. We don't wear head protection because the atmosphere just... doesn't require that.[/quote]

I probably would've been saved from an injury if that were the case for us, but oh well. I kind of enjoy the stimulation. But, then again, I'm not very experienced and it was my first time sparring.

I like it though. Maybe it's just the inner-city girl talking, though.

Nihil Obstat
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[quote name='TeresaBenedicta' post='1582575' date='Jun 25 2008, 12:20 AM']I probably would've been saved from an injury if that were the case for us, but oh well. I kind of enjoy the stimulation. But, then again, I'm not very experienced and it was my first time sparring.

I like it though. Maybe it's just the inner-city girl talking, though.[/quote]
It definitely can be helpful. :) I would imagine that it's a faster way to get 'street smart' than exclusively light sparring, although I'd also argue that with a longer amount of time, one can get just as 'street smart' with light sparring.
Same would go for kata in a sparring oriented dojo versus one that isn't. Just vice versa.

TeresaBenedicta
Posted

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1582582' date='Jun 25 2008, 02:28 AM']It definitely can be helpful. :) I would imagine that it's a faster way to get 'street smart' than exclusively light sparring, although I'd also argue that with a longer amount of time, one can get just as 'street smart' with light sparring.
Same would go for kata in a sparring oriented dojo versus one that isn't. Just vice versa.[/quote]

My parents grew up inner-city, and I spent a few childhood years inner-city as well, before we moved to a nicer place. But the whole "protect me and my family" flows pretty deep. I doubt I'll ever need to "use" this type of defense, though.

I just enjoy the stimulation and the heat of the moment, I think. I'm a huge sports person, so the "high" is exhilirating for me.

Nihil Obstat
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[quote name='TeresaBenedicta' post='1582584' date='Jun 25 2008, 12:32 AM']My parents grew up inner-city, and I spent a few childhood years inner-city as well, before we moved to a nicer place. But the whole "protect me and my family" flows pretty deep. I doubt I'll ever need to "use" this type of defense, though.

I just enjoy the stimulation and the heat of the moment, I think. I'm a huge sports person, so the "high" is exhilirating for me.[/quote]
I guess if all you want is the self defence/fighting thing, you'd get into Krav Maga or something crazy like that...
Although I wouldn't mind trying Krav Maga someday. I've heard they really take it seriously, and I'd be interested to see what it's like, and what they learn.

TeresaBenedicta
Posted

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1582586' date='Jun 25 2008, 02:35 AM']I guess if all you want is the self defence/fighting thing, you'd get into Krav Maga or something crazy like that...
Although I wouldn't mind trying Krav Maga someday. I've heard they really take it seriously, and I'd be interested to see what it's like, and what they learn.[/quote]

Hm, haven't really heard of that.

I don't know though, I think that when things become [i]too[/i] fighting centred-- that becomes a problem.

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