HisChildForever Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1777257' date='Feb 9 2009, 08:50 PM']You'd be better off pointing out that he's nothing special in the world of politics than throwing fits about FOCA. You're just mad that after you went and villified him over it, he didn't actually sign it first thing. Kind of takes the wind out of your sails, doesn't it?[/quote] Why are you making all of these assumptions about me?
Fidei Defensor Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1777258' date='Feb 9 2009, 07:53 PM']Why are you making all of these assumptions about me?[/quote] I'm sorry, I should have qualified my use of "you." By you, I mean everyone around here in general.
HisChildForever Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1777261' date='Feb 9 2009, 08:54 PM']I'm sorry, I should have qualified my use of "you." By you, I mean everyone around here in general.[/quote] Okay. So instead of making assumptions about me, you are making generalizations about everybody.
Fidei Defensor Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1777262' date='Feb 9 2009, 07:55 PM']Okay. So instead of making assumptions about me, you are making generalizations about everybody.[/quote] Oops, I guess I was under the mistaken belief that words meant something and that the ability to articulate logic was important. I guess I was wrong to assume that when everyone around here was against FOCA and quite vocal about it that it acutally meant that. Are you for FOCA, then? Or should I not assume anything?
HisChildForever Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1777267' date='Feb 9 2009, 08:59 PM']Oops, I guess I was under the mistaken belief that words meant something and that the ability to articulate logic was important. I guess I was wrong to assume that when everyone around here was against FOCA and quite vocal about it that it acutally meant that. Are you for FOCA, then? Or should I not assume anything?[/quote] For someone who believes that words mean something, you should know the difference between an assumption and a generalization.
Fidei Defensor Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1777271' date='Feb 9 2009, 08:01 PM']For someone who believes that words mean something, you should know the difference between an assumption and a generalization.[/quote] Generalizations depend on assumptions. I assume that everyone here who is Catholic is against FOCA and probably angry about it. That's not a generalization, though, if it's true in all cases. The generalization that most everyone here doesn't like Obama isn't incorrect, either. And I think you'd be lying to yourself if you say that there isn't a habit of villianizing him over everything he does and then tying it back to his support for abortions. So please, if I'm wrong, enlighten me.
HisChildForever Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1777276' date='Feb 9 2009, 09:04 PM']And I think you'd be lying to yourself if you say that there isn't a habit of villianizing him over everything he does and then tying it back to his support for abortions.[/quote] Original Post: Article on the economy & commentary Reply 1: Wow, what a stupid plan. Reply 2: (quotes Reply 1) Man I totally agree. Why does he think this will work? Reply 3: OMG!!!1!!!!!1111 IT IS A BAD PLAN BECAUSE HE SUPPORTS ABORTION, OMG111!!!111111 Reply 4: Urgh I totally agree, only a baby killer would come up with that plan.
Fidei Defensor Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1777284' date='Feb 9 2009, 08:08 PM']Original Post: Article on the economy & commentary Reply 1: Wow, what a stupid plan. Reply 2: (quotes Reply 1) Man I totally agree. Why does he think this will work? Reply 3: OMG!!!1!!!!!1111 IT IS A BAD PLAN BECAUSE HE SUPPORTS ABORTION, OMG111!!!111111 Reply 4: Urgh I totally agree, only a baby killer would come up with that plan.[/quote] I'm not sure of your point here. This is a fairly accurate representation of many a thread around here.
HisChildForever Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1777292' date='Feb 9 2009, 09:10 PM']I'm not sure of your point here. This is a fairly accurate representation of many a thread around here.[/quote] You just say that because you are pro-abortion.
Fidei Defensor Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1777298' date='Feb 9 2009, 08:11 PM']You just say that because you are pro-abortion.[/quote] No, I say that because it's true. There are a lot of members who don't trust a thing Obama says or does just because he's pro-abortion. I'm not making that up.
HisChildForever Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 So I was totally mocking you, and you completely missed it.
Fidei Defensor Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1777313' date='Feb 9 2009, 08:16 PM']So I was totally mocking you, and you completely missed it.[/quote] Oh well.
HisChildForever Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1777316' date='Feb 9 2009, 09:17 PM']Oh well.[/quote] LOL!
Hassan Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1777129' date='Feb 9 2009, 07:50 PM']And being that most everyone around here villifies him over everything because of his abortion views, it wouldn't surprise me if he never actually mentioned FOCA much. .[/quote] I'm still wondering whether he's going to enact his secret Muslims function force and make me accecpt Islam before enacting his radical distatorial liberal function and make me marry another man or the other way around. Seriously, I am the only one who remembers Obama as the Kenyan secret Muslim intent on instilling Sharia law here? That can't die out, my people are groosly underrepresented as it is Edited February 10, 2009 by Hassan
Socrates Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1776747' date='Feb 9 2009, 11:12 AM']It never was high priority. Some around here [i]made[/i] it high priority, or created the appearance that Obama's only goal for his presidency was to sign FOCA, but that's not the case.[/quote] Apparently, "someone around here" worked as Obama's speechwriter. [b]"Well, the first thing I'd do as president is, is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That's the first thing that I'd do." [/b] ~ Barrack Obama, July 17, 2007, at a speech to Planned Parenthood. All part of a right-wing Catholic plot to make Catholics hate Obama, no doubt.
Socrates Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1777320' date='Feb 9 2009, 10:21 PM']I'm still wondering whether he's going to enact his secret Muslims function force and make me accecpt Islam before enacting his radical distatorial liberal function and make me marry another man or the other way around. Seriously, I am the only one who remembers Obama as the Kenyan secret Muslim intent on instilling Sharia law here?[/quote] Probably, as you're the only one who posts that sort of c[font="Arial"]ra[/font]p on here.
Fidei Defensor Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='Socrates' post='1777339' date='Feb 9 2009, 08:34 PM']Apparently, "someone around here" worked as Obama's speechwriter. [b]"Well, the first thing I'd do as president is, is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That's the first thing that I'd do." [/b] ~ Barrack Obama, July 17, 2007, at a speech to Planned Parenthood. All part of a right-wing Catholic plot to make Catholics hate Obama, no doubt.[/quote] Swing and a miss. I already mentioned that it's not big surprise he promised that to Planned Parenthood. He also promised to withdraw troops from Iraq to those who are against the war. It's a political, vote getting thing.
Nihil Obstat Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1777444' date='Feb 9 2009, 09:46 PM']Swing and a miss. I already mentioned that it's not big surprise he promised that to Planned Parenthood. He also promised to withdraw troops from Iraq to those who are against the war. It's a political, vote getting thing.[/quote] He proved to the world that he's not in any way against abortion and lifting restrictions on it. A person wouldn't say something so radical unless they had at least some readiness to follow through.
Fidei Defensor Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1777447' date='Feb 9 2009, 09:47 PM']He proved to the world that he's not in any way against abortion and lifting restrictions on it. A person wouldn't say something so radical unless they had at least some readiness to follow through.[/quote] That wasn't the point. My point was that FOCA wasn't his top priority, that's why we aren't hearing anything about it.
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