HisChildForever Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1792922' date='Feb 27 2009, 09:38 PM']I thought he just reported she was dead? I agree about the "man"[/quote] I must have edited while you were typing. Why is man in quotation marks?
Hassan Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1792938' date='Feb 27 2009, 10:43 PM']I must have edited while you were typing. [/quote] lol, I think so [quote]Why is man in quotation marks?[/quote] I suppose it's just a way of expressing a lack of respect for him.
HisChildForever Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1792949' date='Feb 27 2009, 09:51 PM']I suppose it's just a way of expressing a lack of respect for him.[/quote] Point taken.
CatherineM Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1792917' date='Feb 27 2009, 08:36 PM']I meant that the man is completely illogical. He went to the police to report his wife's death, all fingers point to him as the murderer, yet now he is pleading "not guilty."[/quote] I still think he is going to plead not guilty due to mental disease or defect. The "only someone who was crazy would behead someone, therefore, if he did this while calm, he must be nuts" defense.
Hassan Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1792958' date='Feb 27 2009, 10:55 PM']I still think he is going to plead not guilty due to mental disease or defect. The "only someone who was crazy would behead someone, therefore, if he did this while calm, he must be nuts" defense.[/quote] as a former lawyer, what do you think the odds of that working are?
HisChildForever Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1792968' date='Feb 27 2009, 10:03 PM']as a former lawyer, what do you think the odds of that working are?[/quote] The psychologist will be able to determine whether or not the man is mentally ill.
cmotherofpirl Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1792958' date='Feb 27 2009, 10:55 PM']I still think he is going to plead not guilty due to mental disease or defect. The "only someone who was crazy would behead someone, therefore, if he did this while calm, he must be nuts" defense.[/quote] Somehow I don't think thats a legitimate defense here.
Hassan Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1792972' date='Feb 27 2009, 11:05 PM']The psychologist will be able to determine whether or not the man is mentally ill.[/quote] you're a psych major right? I know you don't have enough data but do you have any inclinations whether there are any grounds for that?
HisChildForever Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Hassan' post='1792996' date='Feb 27 2009, 10:21 PM']you're a psych major right? I know you don't have enough data but do you have any inclinations whether there are any grounds for that?[/quote] Judging by the little background information that has been provided (see Post #51 for an article which gives some detail about his personal life) I can safely assume that the man is not psychologically ill. From what we know he has no history of mental illness; furthermore it has not been reported that he has ever suffered from mania which eliminates Bipolar I and II, although frankly anyone suffering from that particular disorder needs hospitalization (Bipolar I) for their own sake, not for the safety of others. (With that being said, most individuals with a psychological abnormality rarely pose a risk to others, unless we are talking sociopathy or psychopathy). But if someone [b]wanted[/b] to make a case and seriously argue that the man is psychologically ill? (Quotes are taken from that article I referenced). 1. [b]Naeem Randhawa, a documentary filmmaker in Dallas who worked with the Hassans, [u]said it was apparent that their television venture was in trouble[/u], but not their marriage.[/b] I underlined a stressor which, if traumatic enough, could contribute to triggering an episode or disorder. 2. [b]He characterized Muzzammil Hassan as [u]aggressive in a business sense[/u], with fundraising efforts in the Muslim community that were necessary to keep the station going.[/b] Perhaps one should look more into that. 3. [b]On a personal level, “he was not extremely talkative — he would sit back and listen,” Randhawa said. “He came across not as a passionate guy, [but] more reserved.”[/b] Nothing terribly suspicious here, someone could question his apathy but yet: [b]In a 2005 interview with The Buffalo News, he said that the idea for the TV station was sparked two years earlier when the couple heard derogatory remarks about American Muslims on a radio talk show.[/b] My counter argument to that is he [i]has[/i] passion, ambition, and a strong faith (it was mentioned he is not "hardcore" so perhaps he is a "contemporary" Muslim? I just mean that even though he is not a strict Muslim does not mean he lacks a strong faith.) Statistics show that those who are devout - not merely [i]affiliated[/i] with religion, but [i]devout[/i] - are less likely to suffer a mental disorder [or specifically depression]. But seriously, in my opinion there is no strong case for him to plead insanity, but then again I do not know the details nor have I sat down with him (even so I need more schooling). Edited February 28, 2009 by HisChildForever
Hassan Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1793050' date='Feb 27 2009, 11:46 PM']Judging by the little background information that has been provided (see Post #51 for an article which gives some detail about his personal life) I can safely assume that the man is not psychologically ill. From what we know he has no history of mental illness; furthermore it has not been reported that he has ever suffered from mania which eliminates Bipolar I and II, although frankly anyone suffering from that particular disorder needs hospitalization (Bipolar I) for their own sake, not for the safety of others. (With that being said, most individuals with a psychological abnormality rarely pose a risk to others, unless we are talking sociopathy or psychopathy). But if someone [b]wanted[/b] to make a case and seriously argue that the man is psychologically ill? (Quotes are taken from that article I referenced). 1. [b]Naeem Randhawa, a documentary filmmaker in Dallas who worked with the Hassans, [u]said it was apparent that their television venture was in trouble[/u], but not their marriage.[/b] I underlined a stressor which, if traumatic enough, could contribute to triggering an episode or disorder. 2. [b]He characterized Muzzammil Hassan as [u]aggressive in a business sense[/u], with fundraising efforts in the Muslim community that were necessary to keep the station going.[/b] Perhaps one should look more into that. 3. [b]On a personal level, “he was not extremely talkative — he would sit back and listen,” Randhawa said. “He came across not as a passionate guy, [but] more reserved.”[/b] Nothing terribly suspicious here, someone could question his apathy but yet: [b]In a 2005 interview with The Buffalo News, he said that the idea for the TV station was sparked two years earlier when the couple heard derogatory remarks about American Muslims on a radio talk show.[/b] My counter argument to that is he [i]has[/i] passion, ambition, and a strong faith (it was mentioned he is not "hardcore" so perhaps he is a "contemporary" Muslim? I just mean that even though he is not a strict Muslim does not mean he lacks a strong faith.) Statistics show that those who are devout - not merely [i]affiliated[/i] with religion, but [i]devout[/i] - are less likely to suffer a mental disorder [or specifically depression]. But seriously, in my opinion there is no strong case for him to plead insanity, but then again I do not know the details nor have I sat down with him (even so I need more schooling).[/quote] That's interesting. What I know about psychology could fit in the palm of someone's hand but I didn't see anything to suggust he could not understand what he was doing to differentiate between right and wrong either.
Hassan Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1793077' date='Feb 27 2009, 11:56 PM']If only his name were Kennedy...[/quote] LOL! Of course he cut her head off, he didn't drive her into a lake and leave or to die while he sobered up.
Hassan Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I wonder if Kenedy thinks about that now that his time is coming to a close.
HisChildForever Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1793067' date='Feb 27 2009, 10:53 PM']That's interesting. What I know about psychology could fit in the palm of someone's hand but I didn't see anything to suggust he could not understand what he was doing to differentiate between right and wrong either.[/quote] Well it really depends on the disorder. If he had been suffering a hallucination or a delusion then yes, he would not have been capable of recognizing the true harm of his actions (perhaps experiencing an auditory delusion coupled with severe paranoia) but if he were suffering from anxiety or unipolar depression he could distinguish between right and wrong.
Hassan Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1793102' date='Feb 28 2009, 12:05 AM']Well it really depends on the disorder. If he had been suffering a hallucination or a delusion then yes, he would not have been capable of recognizing the true harm of his actions (perhaps experiencing an auditory delusion coupled with severe paranoia) but if he were suffering from anxiety or unipolar depression he could distinguish between right and wrong.[/quote] yeah, good point. I really don't know enough to guess, I just just throwing out my two cents.
Winchester Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1793087' date='Feb 27 2009, 10:59 PM']I wonder if Kenedy thinks about that now that his time is coming to a close.[/quote] I think he thinks: ghjklfghulhwlkuhwkljthy flower pretty. Yeah, not a fan.
HisChildForever Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1793108' date='Feb 27 2009, 11:06 PM']yeah, good point. I really don't know enough to guess, I just just throwing out my two cents.[/quote] Diagnosing an abnormal disorder is not really my interest, although I do like me a good case study now and then.
Hassan Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1793144' date='Feb 28 2009, 12:14 AM']Diagnosing an abnormal disorder is not really my interest, although I do like me a good case study now and then. [/quote] what is your main area?
Winchester Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1793155' date='Feb 27 2009, 11:18 PM']what is your main area?[/quote] Like everyone else, her torso.
HisChildForever Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1793155' date='Feb 27 2009, 11:18 PM']what is your main area?[/quote] Criminal/Forensic. This guy has yet to be sentenced (or convicted for that matter) so I have to wait.
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