Music At Mass

[Resurrexi]

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[missionseeker]

If done within the legislations that Church set out, it is fine.

C'mon S'mores. You should know this...

[jeffpugh]

What she says. As long as it doesn't become a show.

[jeffpugh]

I would also like to say as long as it accompanies the vocal, and doesn't be the main focus, and the music is inspired by and follows within what gregorian chant is all about. Also, it would probably be wise to save this event for great feasts, etc.

[missionseeker]

^^^ What he said.

[Resurrexi]

BTW there will be an orchestral Mass setting at Pope Benedict XVI's Pentecost Mass

[missionseeker]

I WOULD say that it has no place in NO. Mostly because orchestral pieces are so much longer where you could continue the Mass in the EF, you have to stop it in the OF

[Resurrexi]

I'm not sure exactly what you're saying...

[Slappo]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1857319' date='May 4 2009, 12:57 AM']I'm not sure exactly what you're saying...[/quote]

The OF waits for the music to finish before continuing with the mass. In the EF this is not necessarily so from what I remember from the few times I've gone. Look at for instance the agnus dei or kyrie I believe, the actions and rubrics for the priest continue even though he has finished the kyrie or agnus dei and the chant is still being sung.

Edit: [b]I THINK[/b]

Edited May 4, 2009 by Slappo

[LouisvilleFan]

Since at least some (if not all) orchestral settings of the Mass were written for liturgical use... I'd say yes. Would be an improvement for many parishes, I'm sure.

Been rockin' out to some Haydyn Mass No. 7...

Edited May 4, 2009 by LouisvilleFan

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='LouisvilleFan' post='1857594' date='May 4 2009, 01:48 PM']Since at least some (if not all) orchestral settings of the Mass were written for liturgical use... I'd say yes. Would be an improvement for many parishes, I'm sure.

Been rockin' out to some Haydyn Mass No. 7...[/quote]
I wouldn't make it a regular for every parish, even if the resources were there. I Hayden though

[missionseeker]

I love [i][b]singing[/b][/i] Haydn masses. At Mass. With orchestra. I got you all beat.

[jeffpugh]

One upsies, eh?

[missionseeker]

oh, you know... just whenever I get a chance...

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='Slappo' post='1857472' date='May 4 2009, 11:33 AM']The OF waits for the music to finish before continuing with the mass. In the EF this is not necessarily so from what I remember from the few times I've gone. Look at for instance the agnus dei or kyrie I believe, the actions and rubrics for the priest continue even though he has finished the kyrie or agnus dei and the chant is still being sung.

Edit: [b]I THINK[/b] [/quote]

Yes, you're right about the Agnus Dei. This is true for the Kyrie and Sanctus, as well. I was thinking more along the lines of the Gloria and Credo where the priest recites the prayer at the altar and then sits while the choir finishes chanting.

[Cam42]

A tidbit of information....orchestral Masses are allowable at both OF and EF Masses. Case in point: St. Agnes in St. Paul, MN. They have Orchestral Masses 33 Sundays a year.

There is nothing prohibiting the use of said Masses, as a matter of fact, precisely because these settings of Sacred Music are particularly apt, they should be fostered. As mentioned above, the Holy Father will be employing an orchestral setting for Pentecost.

[dairygirl4u2c]

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Edited May 13, 2009 by dairygirl4u2c

[RezaMikhaeil]

I'm against it, because the Early Church Fathers mostly condemned it, and many like St. Clement of Alexandria and St. John Chyrsostom condemned the use, specifically of stringed instruments.

Their often referred to the voice as the only musical instrument that is needed, believing that the rest takes the focus off the liturgy, amongst other reasons.

Reza

[she_who_is_not]

On mass becoming a performance/show:
One year we had a lovely choir from a local Baptist college come and sing the Lacrimosa on Laetare during Communion. It was a little Rose Sunday treat. However, the choirmember's families attended and when the choir finished they all stood up and clapped. When we all remained seated prayerfully awaiting the dismissal, one of the family members huffed loudly "Hmm...I guess some people just don't have an appreciation for good music."

[princessgianna]

[quote name='RezaLemmyng' post='1865753' date='May 12 2009, 10:00 PM']I'm against it, because the Early Church Fathers mostly condemned it, and many like St. Clement :unsure:of Alexandria and St. John Chyrsostom condemned the use, specifically of stringed instruments.

Their often referred to the voice as the only musical instrument that is needed, believing that the rest takes the focus off the liturgy, amongst other reasons.

Reza[/quote]
What does the CHURCH say now though! While we should read and acknowledge the ECF-they were not infallible.

Peace
Gina