Stephen Colbert Preaches Redemptive Suffering On The View

[kujo]

[quote name='MithLuin' timestamp='1288662456' post='2184132']
Sure, some of Colbert's humor is fine.

Like [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq8y3_Dy0Tw]this segment[/url] with President Obama. Or calling [url=http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/181944/june-07-2006/balrog]CNN for using a picture of a balrog in a segment instead of Satan[/url]. (You'll note that his theology is accurate.)

But some of it does cross a whole lot of lines. For instance, the segment where he pretends he is [url=http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/181609/february-27-2006/confess-your-sins-to-stephen]a priest in the confessional[/url], and has people confess their sins to him. It ends with a caller who confesses having impure thoughts for Stephen Colbert, which he responds to by requesting the call be patched through to his dressing room. How can anyone say that's an example of Stephen Colbert, the good Catholic boy???
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I don't know that anyone is suggesting that Colbert be canonized anytime soon. Nor is anyone disputing that his jokes and general sense of humor is pure. But he sure isn't on par with anyone passing out abortion pills. A 6 year old could tell you that.

[MithLuin]

No disagreement from me there, though I don't watch his show so I can't say that I know what exactly he talks about. I just know that it's satire, and he's mocking fundamentalist Christians and news commentators who are full of themselves.

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1288662212' post='2184127']
Which jokes were so gravely-sinful that it they became comparable, in any way, to tangibly supporting and assisting in the murder of an unborn child?
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Which poster was comparing the comparitive gravity of grave sins? Nobody was. He was pointing out that both acts constitute [i]grave matter, [/i]not that they are [i]equally [/i]grave. Do you understand the difference?

~Sternhauser

[sixpence]

So how does Steven Colbert producing the Colbert Report morally compare to Jonathan Swift writing "A Modest Proposal" which I recall having to read in my Catholic high school?

[Paddington]

^
Could you share a little about that story and how it could be a scandal? I don't know it.

[sixpence]

[quote name='Paddington' timestamp='1288741386' post='2184310']
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Could you share a little about that story and how it could be a scandal? I don't know it.
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It is a famous satire explaining the merits of selling ones children for meat, in order to get through tough economic times. Meant to jab at the current social system and governments treatment of the poor, mostly Catholic Irish.

[Paddington]

Thank you Sixpence.

[Anastasia13]

[quote name='MithLuin' timestamp='1288662456' post='2184132']
Sure, some of Colbert's humor is fine.

Like [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq8y3_Dy0Tw]this segment[/url] with President Obama. Or calling [url=http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/181944/june-07-2006/balrog]CNN for using a picture of a balrog in a segment instead of Satan[/url]. (You'll note that his theology is accurate.)

But some of it does cross a whole lot of lines. For instance, the segment where he pretends he is [url=http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/181609/february-27-2006/confess-your-sins-to-stephen]a priest in the confessional[/url], and has people confess their sins to him. It ends with a caller who confesses having impure thoughts for Stephen Colbert, which he responds to by requesting the call be patched through to his dressing room. How can anyone say that's an example of Stephen Colbert, the good Catholic boy???
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It's also an opportunity to reflect on what it means for someone to really be a spiritual leader. He made no more mockery of it than the priests who did impure things with alter boys, but he also said at the beginning of the skit that he was not a priest and thus made far more of a distinction between abusing a role and really being a spiritual leader.

Edited November 3, 2010 by Light and Truth

[Semper Catholic]

[quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1287887461' post='2181967']
They should be in bed. The bottom line is that Colbert, as an avowed Catholic shouldn't be broadcasting a lot of the stuff he does, because it's scandalous.

~Sternhauser
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Lol who makes their kids go to bed at 7 O'Clock? You guys are child abusers:smile2:

[Anastasia13]

[quote name='Semper Catholic' timestamp='1288759558' post='2184360']
Lol who makes their kids go to bed at 7 O'Clock? You guys are child abusers:smile2:
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What good parent is so uninvolved in their child's life they let an underage/non-discerning kid watch that without any guidance? Oh right, they just get excused from parenting because both parents might work. Maybe next we can clean up MTV?

[Paddington]

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Maybe if somebody would just write MTV a letter. Ya know like with moral sense, but like not all judgemental. And like the letter would reference pop-culture in a way that enhances the argument or something. :teach:

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1288736118' post='2184290']
So how does Steven Colbert producing the Colbert Report morally compare to Jonathan Swift writing "A Modest Proposal" which I recall having to read in my Catholic high school?
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Colbert, in his satire, mocks the true ideas that are proposed by people actually standing up for sexual morality. Swift mocked the ideas that might well have been proposed by people who did [i]not[/i] stand up for basic human dignity.

~Sternhauser

[sixpence]

[quote name='Semper Catholic' timestamp='1288759558' post='2184360']
Lol who makes their kids go to bed at 7 O'Clock? You guys are child abusers:smile2:
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Its on at 7 where u are??????

Its on a 1130pm over here!!

[sixpence]

[quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1288816762' post='2184461']
Colbert, in his satire, mocks the true ideas that are proposed by people actually standing up for sexual morality. Swift mocked the ideas that might well have been proposed by people who did [i]not[/i] stand up for basic human dignity.

~Sternhauser
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so obscene mockery is[i] [/i][u]ok[/u][i] [/i]if it pertains to.... [u]immoral people[/u]....

but [u]not ok[/u] when it pertains to....[u]politicians.[/u]....

hmmmmm......

[Jesus_lol]

Dont forget some of those people standing up for sexual morality also belong in the immoral/hypocrite camp.(well everyone is immoral at times)

like Mr Newt Gringrich, married three times, cheated on first two wives, dumped the first one while she was recovering from cancer surgery and was carrying on an affair on the second wife, with a staffer, through the Bill Clinton/Lewinsky scandal, which he was quite vocal on. And eventually married that staffer. And yet he carries the torch for family values because of his stance on sexual morality.

People like this deserve whatever mockery comes their way.

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1288830371' post='2184506']
so obscene mockery is[i] [/i][u]ok[/u][i] [/i]if it pertains to.... [u]immoral people[/u]....

but [u]not ok[/u] when it pertains to....[u]politicians.[/u]....

hmmmmm......
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Is that anything close to what I said?

~Sternhauser

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1288831294' post='2184522']
Dont forget some of those people standing up for sexual morality also belong in the immoral/hypocrite camp.(well everyone is immoral at times)

like Mr Newt Gringrich, married three times, cheated on first two wives, dumped the first one while she was recovering from cancer surgery and was carrying on an affair on the second wife, with a staffer, through the Bill Clinton/Lewinsky scandal, which he was quite vocal on. And eventually married that staffer. And yet he carries the torch for family values because of his stance on sexual morality.

People like this deserve whatever mockery comes their way.
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It's not about mockery or pointing out hypocrisy. It's about the salacious way in which he does it. I'm not going to go over the vile stuff he says or does in his videos, except this: "You're quite the MILF" is not exactly something Catholics should be broadcasting on public TV as some sort of "joke." It's scandalous. Gravely so.

~Sternhauser

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1288832173' post='2184537']
It's not about mockery or pointing out hypocrisy. It's about the salacious way in which he does it. I'm not going to go over the vile stuff he says or does in his videos, except this: "You're quite the MILF" is not exactly something Catholics should be broadcasting on public TV as some sort of "joke." It's scandalous. Gravely so.

~Sternhauser
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[ardillacid]

[quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1288832173' post='2184537']
I'm not going to go over the vile stuff he says or does in his videos, except this: "You're quite the MILF" is not exactly something Catholics should be broadcasting on public TV as some sort of "joke." It's scandalous. Gravely so.
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How is that scandalous?

[Winchester]

Colbert do what he do. Imma make it do what it do. Ya'll goan make it do what it do.