Stephen Colbert Preaches Redemptive Suffering On The View

[MithLuin]

Of course, they claimed that rally was both nonpartisan and nonpolitical. There were no candidates there, and the point was more to protest heated protesting than anything. Basically, it was a gathering of listening to music outside, while holding amusing signs. (I think)

That being said, the people who attended were from the Left side of the political spectrum.

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1289185801' post='2185661']
colbert was part of the recent political rally in D.C., where far-leftists gathered to spike their votes for pro-abortion politicians, so, no, I dont think Colbert really is someone I would look to for a catechism lesson...



....what he speaks of on the View is all emotion and fluffiness...
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Completely wrong, DS. That rally was not associated with any political party or candidate, and was entirely for the purpose of supporting Bipartisanship and working together politically, and reducing extremist views from both sides.


[quote name='MithLuin' timestamp='1289187323' post='2185668']
Of course, they claimed that rally was both nonpartisan and nonpolitical. There were no candidates there, and the point was more to protest heated protesting than anything. Basically, it was a gathering of listening to music outside, while holding amusing signs. (I think)

That being said, the people who attended were from the Left side of the political spectrum.
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Well, im not surprised that a Rally supporting Bipartisanship would be relatively devoid of Republicans, despite efforts to appeal to both camps.

[ardillacid]

By that logic, liberals avoided Glen Beck's rally because the don't have any honor

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1289188360' post='2185673']
Completely wrong, DS. That rally was not associated with any political party or candidate, and was entirely for the purpose of supporting Bipartisanship and working together politically, and reducing extremist views from both sides.




Well, im not surprised that a Rally supporting Bipartisanship would be relatively devoid of Republicans, despite efforts to appeal to both camps.
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well, if it was meant to be bi-partisan, the liberals in charge messed up, as liberals usually do....

cos', "Pro-Choice America" was a definite heavy presence in that crowd....

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='notardillacid' timestamp='1289189229' post='2185681']
By that logic, liberals avoided Glen Beck's rally because the don't have any honor
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I'd call that one a case of false advertising.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1289192450' post='2185710']
I'd call that one a case of false advertising.
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But two liberal mouthpieces clamoring for bipartisanship as their party is about to lose their death grip on the government have pure motives.

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='notardillacid' timestamp='1289194798' post='2185719']
But two liberal mouthpieces clamoring for bipartisanship as their party is about to lose their death grip on the government have pure motives.
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Do you ever watch either of their shows? Yes Stewart is a liberal(pretty much everybody has some sort of political affiliation) but rarely lets it bias his show.


They have been after that goal for a long time now, btw. Not to mention that particular rally was originally concieved many months back, and was actually at their fans request that they do something like that. And at least somebody is interested in working together.

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='notardillacid' timestamp='1289189229' post='2185681']
By that logic, liberals avoided Glen Beck's rally because the don't have any honor
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The stated purposes of the two rallies were quite different. Becks was quite obviously a anti-liberal/pro republican rally. really not very surprising that there wasnt liberals there, and the speeches given hammered that in.

In Stewarts rally it was ostensibly about bipartisanship, and the main speeches were very focused on that goal, not on putting one party over the other. Conservatives would have been welcome, if they had wanted to mingle with people in other parties.


[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1289190043' post='2185690']
well, if it was meant to be bi-partisan, the liberals in charge messed up, as liberals usually do....

cos', "Pro-Choice America" was a definite heavy presence in that crowd....
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can you back that second part up somehow?

[Winchester]

Stephen Colbert killed my dad.

[Winchester]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1289204562' post='2185729']
And at least somebody is interested in working together.
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Everyone is interested in working together. So long as that means the other side gives in.

There is no compromise in many areas. Letting you in front of me for traffic in no way compares to permitting you to kill people that merely inconvenience you. Or permitting you to give my property to someone else for their sole use. There is no compromise in the state diminishing my right to self defense.

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1289204837' post='2185730']
The stated purposes of the two rallies were quite different. Becks was quite obviously a anti-liberal/pro republican rally. really not very surprising that there wasnt liberals there, and the speeches given hammered that in.

In Stewarts rally it was ostensibly about bipartisanship, and the main speeches were very focused on that goal, not on putting one party over the other. Conservatives would have been welcome, if they had wanted to mingle with people in other parties.
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actually, stewart's crowd is overly liberal, he's a liberal...they want to "get along," as long as the liberal side continues to be in power and they obviously want the democratic party to always win...when liberals get criticized and democrats have a chance of being swept out of power, the liberals put on a show...just as this rally was, criticizing the other side for "not playing fair..." it's really all quite hypocritical....


[quote]can you back that second part up somehow?[/quote]

....just google "pro-choice america stewart/colbert rally" and you will find the proof that they were a definite presence at this rally, and they were there for the sole purpose of "recruiting."

[ardillacid]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1289204562' post='2185729']
Do you ever watch either of their shows? Yes Stewart is a liberal(pretty much everybody has some sort of political affiliation) but rarely lets it bias his show.
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Yeah, I've probably watched about 30-40 shows between the two of them. How much Glenn Beck do you watch?

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1289204837' post='2185730']
The stated purposes of the two rallies were quite different. Becks was quite obviously a anti-liberal/pro republican rally. really not very surprising that there wasnt liberals there, and the speeches given hammered that in.

In Stewarts rally it was ostensibly about bipartisanship, and the main speeches were very focused on that goal, not on putting one party over the other. Conservatives would have been welcome, if they had wanted to mingle with people in other parties.
[/quote]
Right, conservatives are welcome at a rally set up by two people who make a living deriding, mocking, and verbally abusing them. Not very conducive to a bipartisan climate.

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1289223638' post='2185751']
Stephen Colbert killed my dad.
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In order to keep fear alive.

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='notardillacid' timestamp='1289224569' post='2185757']
Yeah, I've probably watched about 30-40 shows between the two of them. How much Glenn Beck do you watch?
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Admittedly, not as much. but ive seen a few of them.

[quote]
Right, conservatives are welcome at a rally set up by two people who make a living deriding, mocking, and verbally abusing them. Not very conducive to a bipartisan climate.
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Stewart(i tend to watch his show more than colbert's) spends almost as much time mocking Liberals these days as republicans, and yet liberals showed up. He has mocked Obama a good bit, but then Obama showed up on the show, not to mention the countless republican candidates and newscasters/pundits he has had on the show.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1289234200' post='2185774']
Stewart(i tend to watch his show more than colbert's) spends almost as much time mocking Liberals these days as republicans, and yet liberals showed up. He has mocked Obama a good bit, but then Obama showed up on the show, not to mention the countless republican candidates and newscasters/pundits he has had on the show.
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He mocks liberals for being ineffective at enacting Promised Change. He mocks anyone right of center for their beliefs.

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='notardillacid' timestamp='1289237785' post='2185781']
He mocks liberals for being ineffective at enacting Promised Change. He mocks anyone right of center for their beliefs.
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I've seen Stewart roasting Obama for spewing the same stuff Bush was spewing, particularly in regard to privacy violations and foreign Statepolicy. It was pretty impressive. I'd trust Stewart over any other news anchor, and that's not hyperbole.

~Sternhauser

Edited November 8, 2010 by Sternhauser

[Winchester]

Our politicians are typically leftists. Republicans overall seem less authoritarian than Democrats, but they still believe that freedom comes from legislation.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1289223842' post='2185753']
Everyone is interested in working together. So long as that means the other side gives in.
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Whenever I see cries for "bi-partisanship" and "working together," it seems to always translate to "shut up and do what our side wants."

Liberals are forever whining about "divisiveness" and "polarization," which always translates to some liberal being outraged, yes [i][b]outraged[/b][/i], that there are people out there across the Fruited Plain who voice views opposed to his leftist opinions.

(Interestingly, this seems to be an entirely left-wing thing. I may have missed something, but I can't recall a conservative using the "divisiveness" or "polarization" line to attack liberal viewpoints.)

Apparently, in America today, we're supposed to all hold hands and rally around the same politically-correct ideals, and opposition must not be voiced, lest we (shock! horror!) be "divisive."

Everybody knows that Dissent is only Patriotic when there's an elephant in charge.

[Winchester]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1289244052' post='2185806']
...the Fruited Plain ...
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I agree with much of this, but it's either fruited or it's plain; it can't be both.

[sixpence]

[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1289185801' post='2185661']
colbert was part of the recent political rally in D.C., where [s]far-leftists[/s][i] mostly moderate liberals and a some moderate conservatives [/i]gathered to [s]spike their votes for pro-abortion politicians[/s] [i]protest political extremism and/or media fear-mongering[/i], so, no, I dont think Colbert really is someone I would look to for a catechism lesson...

....what he speaks of on the View is all emotion and fluffiness...
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No disagreement that he is not to be looked upon as a saintly role model or that he is not a great Catholic

ps~ Hiiiiii DS!!!

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[Socrates]

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1289245462' post='2185813']
. . . [i]protest political extremism and/or media fear-mongering[/i] . . .
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So what exactly is the "political extremism" and "media fear-mongering" being protested, and what action is the protest supposed to spur?

"Political extremism" is such a vague term as to be meaningless, and usually essentially translates to "political ideas which disagree with my own."

Somehow, I doubt the point of the rally is to protest suicide-bombing terrorists.

Edited November 8, 2010 by Socrates