tnavarro61 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I am also excited for this. What are the plans? I think it must be discussed here, rather at the chat. So, how it's gonna operate?
Chamomile Posted February 9, 2011 Author Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) [quote name='tnavarro61' timestamp='1297250501' post='2210530'] I am also excited for this. What are the plans? I think it must be discussed here, rather at the chat. So, how it's gonna operate? [/quote] Yeah.... it's pretty easy to get distracted in the chat room So I'm of the opinion that simplicity is best when it comes to adding devotions to one's prayer life. That way it's not a huge burden to do this and if you suddenly remember right before you go to bed, it doesn't take a great amount of time to pray. I'm thinking maybe something like a short prayer that would be the same every day, with a ____________________ that would be whatever the intention is for that day (or week, or however we decide to split up the time). Then follow that with the Our Father, Hail Mary, and Glory Be. Is anyone good at composing prayers? Edited February 9, 2011 by Chamomile
franciscanheart Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I think we should compose the prayer together. Everyone put down words or phrases you would like to see included, or write out a general prayer you see fitting for this. We can edit from there.
Lisa Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 [quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1297265930' post='2210570'] I think we should compose the prayer together. Everyone put down words or phrases you would like to see included, or write out a general prayer you see fitting for this. We can edit from there. [/quote] agreed. "as they discern Your will, may they journey ever closer to You" "give them peace, strength, and joy"
krissylou Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I think this sounds like a lovely plan. If an actual "confraternity" is canonically erected -- well for me that sounds like more bureaucracy than is necessary for us. Speaking just for myself, I'd skip any attempts at making this formal and official and be "a group of people who adopt a shared discipline of praying in a particular manner for particular intentions" which we can perfectly well do by virtue of baptism without jumping through hoops.
franciscanheart Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 [quote name='krissylou' timestamp='1297273346' post='2210603'] I think this sounds like a lovely plan. If an actual "confraternity" is canonically erected -- well for me that sounds like more bureaucracy than is necessary for us. Speaking just for myself, I'd skip any attempts at making this formal and official and be "a group of people who adopt a shared discipline of praying in a particular manner for particular intentions" which we can perfectly well do by virtue of baptism without jumping through hoops. [/quote] I agree. I don't see any necessity for a vision or mission other than that which has already been stated.
Tally Marx Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 "grant them the grace of wisdom and perseverence against temptations that might distract them from Your call on their life"
tnavarro61 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 "send Your Holy Spirit into the hearts of your priests and religious, and sanctify them."
LaPetiteSoeur Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 "grant them the grace to be holy, to do Your will, and be filled with Your love and peace."
Chamomile Posted February 10, 2011 Author Posted February 10, 2011 I'm not great at composing eloquent-sounding prayers, but here's my little contribution. To start the prayer... [i]"Most Gracious and Loving God, Who calls all mankind to intimate union with Yourself,..."[/i] And the usual ending... [i]"We ask this in the name of Jesus, Your Son, Who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, one God, forever and ever. Amen"[/i] And then of course, we need to ask our Mom for help... [i]"Our Lady of Good Counsel, pray for us."[/i]
franciscanheart Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Thanks to all of your contributions, this is our prayer so far. Please feel free to note edits. If you change the prayer in some way and paste it in your response, please highlight clearly the changes you have made. [b]A Prayer for Those in Discernment[/b] Most Gracious and Loving God, You call all mankind to intimate union with Yourself. Send Your Holy Spirit into the hearts of your priests and religious, and sanctify them. Grant those now discerning the grace of wisdom and perseverance against temptations which might distract them from Your call on their life. Grant them, too, the grace to be holy, to do Your will, and be filled with Your love, strength and peace. As they discern Your will, may they journey ever closer to You. We ask this in the name of Jesus, Your Son, Who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, one God, forever and ever. Amen. Our Lady of Good Counsel, pray for us.
Tally Marx Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 (edited) I just tried to unify it a bit as far as format goes... and add something about accepting God's Will no matter where He leads us. Tell me what you guys think. Feel free to tell me it's terrible, if it is. I won't be offended or anything. : [quote] Most Gracious and Loving God, You call all mankind to intimate union with Yourself. Send Your Holy Spirit into the hearts of your priests and religious, sanctify them, [b]and make them instruments of Your Will[/b]. [b]Do not forget, we beg You, those who are currently discerning Your Will for their life[/b]. [b]Help them to understand the plan for them which You, in Your Infinite Wisdom, have conceived. [/b]Give them the grace of perseverance against temptation which might distract them from Your call on their life [b]and the wisdom and humility to accept wherever You lead them[/b]. Help them to be holy, to do Your Will in all things; fill them with Your Love, strength, and peace. As they discern, may they journey ever closer to You. We ask this in the name of Jesus, Your Son, Who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, One God, forever and ever. Amen. Our Lady of Good Counsel, pray for us. [/quote] Edited February 10, 2011 by Tally Marx
franciscanheart Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 That is really great, Tally! Thank you!
Orans Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 (edited) I'd like to join too. I'm praying for you all anyway [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/nun1.gif[/img] Edited February 10, 2011 by Orans
franciscanheart Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 [quote name='Orans' timestamp='1297312520' post='2210856'] I'd like to join too. I'm praying for you all anyway [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/nun1.gif[/img] [/quote] Thank you, thank you! Same!
Chamomile Posted February 10, 2011 Author Posted February 10, 2011 Great job, Tally! Should we mention the Vocation Station by name? Or the website? Like as in, "remember those for whom I am specifically praying..." I don't know how to work it in there without being awkward (unfortunately, the words "Phatmass" and "Vocation Station" just don't seem to flow with the prayer ), but it is good to be specific in prayer. And since this would be specifically for those of us here, I feel that we should actually say that. Maybe we could give the prayer group a name that wouldn't be so awkward to say in a prayer. Like a title of Our Lady (such as Our Lady of Good Counsel), and to pray for that group would be to include the intention of praying for all on the Vocation Station or those who come into contact with it. And of course, past members Just a suggestion...
vee Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 [quote name='Chamomile' timestamp='1297307193' post='2210828'] And then of course, we need to ask our Mom for help... [i]"Our Lady of Mt Carmel, pray for us."[/i] [/quote] Yes!!!
franciscanheart Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 [quote name='Tally Marx' timestamp='1297310680' post='2210847'] I just tried to unify it a bit as far as format goes... and add something about accepting God's Will no matter where He leads us. Tell me what you guys think. Feel free to tell me it's terrible, if it is. I won't be offended or anything. : [quote]Most Gracious and Loving God, You call all mankind to intimate union with Yourself. Send Your Holy Spirit into the hearts of your priests and religious, sanctify them,[b] and make them instruments of Your Will.[/b] [b]Do not forget, we beg You, those who are currently discerning Your Will for their life. Help them to understand the plan for them which You, in Your Infinite Wisdom, have conceived.[/b] Give them the grace of perseverance against temptation which might distract them from Your call on their life [b]and the wisdom and humility to accept wherever You lead them[/b]. Help them to be holy, to do Your Will in all things; fill them with Your Love, strength, and peace. As they discern, may they journey ever closer to You. We ask this in the name of Jesus, Your Son, Who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, One God, forever and ever. Amen. Our Lady of Good Counsel, pray for us.[/quote] [/quote] Here's a weak attempt: [indent]Most Gracious and Loving God, You call all mankind to intimate union with Yourself. Send Your Holy Spirit into the hearts of your priests and religious, sanctify them, and make them instruments of Your Will. Do not forget, [b]I[/b] beg You, those who are currently discerning Your Will for their life[b], most specifically the men and women of phatmass[/b]. Help them to understand the plan for [b]their lives[/b] which You, in Your Infinite Wisdom, have conceived. Give them the grace of perseverance against temptation which might distract them from Your call on their life and the wisdom and humility to accept wherever You lead them. Help them to be holy, to do Your Will in all things; fill them with Your Love, strength, and peace. As they discern, may they journey ever closer to You. [b]I[/b] ask this in the name of Jesus, Your Son, Who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, One God, forever and ever. Amen. Our Lady of Good Counsel, pray for us.[/indent] I wonder if we should add a line, since we will be praying this individually, about granting each of us the same grace and wisdom. [i]And of course, if ever we should be blest enough to pray this together, we could of course change the "I" to "we".[/i] Alternately, we could use something such as this: [indent]Most Gracious and Loving God, You call all mankind to intimate union with Yourself. Send Your Holy Spirit into the hearts of your priests and religious, sanctify them, and make them instruments of Your Will. Do not forget, [b]we[/b] beg You, those who are currently discerning Your Will for their life[b], most specifically the men and women of phatmass[/b]. Help [b]us[/b] to understand the plan for [b]our[/b] lives which You, in Your Infinite Wisdom, have conceived. Give [b]us[/b] the grace of perseverance against temptation which might distract [b]us[/b] from Your call on [b]our lives[/b] and the wisdom and humility to accept wherever You lead [b]us[/b]. Help [b]us[/b] to be holy, to do Your Will in all things; fill [b]us[/b] with Your Love, strength, and peace. As [b]we[/b] discern, may [b]we[/b] journey ever closer to You. [b]We[/b] ask this in the name of Jesus, Your Son, Who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, One God, forever and ever. Amen. Our Lady of Good Counsel, pray for us.[/indent]
Tally Marx Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 [quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1297358453' post='2210978'] [indent]Most Gracious and Loving God, You call all mankind to intimate union with Yourself. Send Your Holy Spirit into the hearts of your priests and religious, sanctify them, and make them instruments of Your Will. Do not forget, [b]we[/b] beg You, those who are currently discerning Your Will for their life[b], most specifically the men and women of phatmass[/b]. Help [b]us[/b] to understand the plan for [b]our[/b] lives which You, in Your Infinite Wisdom, have conceived. Give [b]us[/b] the grace of perseverance against temptation which might distract [b]us[/b] from Your call on [b]our lives[/b] and the wisdom and humility to accept wherever You lead [b]us[/b]. Help [b]us[/b] to be holy, to do Your Will in all things; fill [b]us[/b] with Your Love, strength, and peace. As [b]we[/b] discern, may [b]we[/b] journey ever closer to You. [b]We[/b] ask this in the name of Jesus, Your Son, Who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, One God, forever and ever. Amen. Our Lady of Good Counsel, pray for us.[/indent] [/quote] I really like this one!! Nice way to work in mention of Phatmass, specifically.
HopefulBride Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 [quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1297358453' post='2210978'] [indent]Most Gracious and Loving God, You call all mankind to intimate union with Yourself. Send Your Holy Spirit into the hearts of your priests and religious, sanctify them, and make them instruments of Your Will. Do not forget, [b]we[/b] beg You, those who are currently discerning Your Will for their life[b], most specifically the men and women of phatmass[/b]. Help [b]us[/b] to understand the plan for [b]our[/b] lives which You, in Your Infinite Wisdom, have conceived. Give [b]us[/b] the grace of perseverance against temptation which might distract [b]us[/b] from Your call on [b]our lives[/b] and the wisdom and humility to accept wherever You lead [b]us[/b]. Help [b]us[/b] to be holy, to do Your Will in all things; fill [b]us[/b] with Your Love, strength, and peace. As [b]we[/b] discern, may [b]we[/b] journey ever closer to You. [b]We[/b] ask this in the name of Jesus, Your Son, Who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, One God, forever and ever. Amen. Our Lady of Good Counsel, pray for us.[/indent] [/quote] I vote on this one (couldn't find the one for two thumbs)
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