MissyP89 Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 We don't like abortion and, generally speaking, we don't like Obama either, for a myriad of different reasons. amesome. I'm so glad we understand each other! So, moving on: what can we, as Catholics and other pro-life Christians, do to protect the religious freedom of private institutions?
Winchester Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) Support the free market and oppose government social programs. Edited October 5, 2011 by Winchester
Basilisa Marie Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 Write our congresspeoples! For real. I just emailed my representative about this. She's a new republican...my senators are democrats and probably won't care, but I'm sending them an email anyway. Find yours here: For the House: [url="https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml"]https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml[/url] And for the Senate: [url="http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm"]http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm[/url]
missionseeker Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 great article/letter [url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hhss-birth-control-rules-intrude-on-catholic-values/2011/09/27/gIQAOj8s9K_story.html?wpisrc=emailtoafriend"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hhss-birth-control-rules-intrude-on-catholic-values/2011/09/27/gIQAOj8s9K_story.html?wpisrc=emailtoafriend[/url]
dominicansoul Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1317778518' post='2315474'] Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt. I only defended Obama in so much as I rather dislike negative blanket statements about presidents that say that they haven't done ANYTHING good. [/quote] sort of like the outrageous obnoxious blanket statements that express pro-lifers only care for the unborn and not for people once they are born....
dominicansoul Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1317790565' post='2315572'] great article/letter [url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hhss-birth-control-rules-intrude-on-catholic-values/2011/09/27/gIQAOj8s9K_story.html?wpisrc=emailtoafriend"]http://www.washingto...=emailtoafriend[/url] [/quote] the comments after the story are disheartening.... people just don't seem to understand....
Basilisa Marie Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1317832306' post='2315725'] sort of like the outrageous obnoxious blanket statements that express pro-lifers only care for the unborn and not for people once they are born.... [/quote] I'd PM you, but your inbox seems to be full. [quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1317834092' post='2315729'] the comments after the story are disheartening.... people just don't seem to understand.... [/quote] At least its finally in some of the secular media, though. Even if it is just the opinion section.
tinytherese Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Never read the comments to any article or youtube video. Haters take the opportunity to post their hate on them.
BG45 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='tinytherese' timestamp='1317876589' post='2315944'] Never read the comments to any article or youtube video. Haters take the opportunity to post their hate on them. [/quote] I googled "Youtube comments faith in humanity" and every result is something along the lines of "Reading YouTube comments makes me lose faith in humanity".
tinytherese Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 When it comes to evangelizing pro-choicers, think of the movie Bella. What did Jose do in Bella, when Nina expressed her desire for an abortion? He befriended her, listened to why she wanted one, emphasized with her, spent the day with her with personal sacrifice to his job (not that that is recommended,) brought her home to his family where she not only experienced the love from them that she hadn't received from her own mom but also heard the story of how one of their children was adopted-hearing the testimony of the beauty of adoption and Jose telling her that that brother of his is just the same to them as his other brother as if he wasn't adopted at all, and shared his own remorseful story of taking a little girl's life away and the pain that it caused her mother. In other words--he loved her and she in time decided at the last minute not to abort her baby. On another note, I have a prayer request for those of you who didn't see or don't look at the prayer room or open mic. My best friend knows a woman at his parish who had tests done on her unborn baby and they show that he or she may have medical problems, so she's thinking about having a surgical abortion. She doesn't feel comfortable talking to the priest and she goes to the Catholic church one week and an Evangelical Lutheran church the next. The people she knows at the EL church think that she should have an abortion. I suggested that he suggest that this woman talk to someone at the parish with a son or daughter with a medical condition to talk to her about how such a child can be a gift. He said he knows a woman who has a daughter with cerebral palsy who could talk to her. Please pray for this situation.
cmotherofpirl Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 [quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1317596114' post='2314154'] What the heck, you guys?!!!!! I never said I wasn't pro-life. I'm Catholic - of course I'm pro life! I don't NEED your "Face the Truth" style disgusting pictures. I'm actually a bit insulted that you think I do. You just confirmed what I said ([i]sarcastically...[/i]clearly that is lost in this forum) about only caring about one part of Catholic Social Teaching. Yes it's an important issue. But can you recognize that other things are important AS WELL? I'm done here. Clearly no one is actually taking the time to read what I have to say or take me seriously, and even if they are, you guys clearly don't think that I can be Catholic while not supporting Life Issues with my entire being. [/quote] I haven't seen ANY action by President Obama that supports ANY area of Catholic teaching - not one single thing.
add Posted October 9, 2011 Author Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) America is great because it is good. And once it ceases to be good it will also cease to be great. Our Founding Fathers warned us and tried to protect us with the Constitution of the United States of America. The Constitution clearly laid out the responsibilities and authority of the U.S. government. It has nothing to do with Health Care, Controlling the Banks, Controlling the Auto Industry, Regulating Business, neither deciding winners and losers nor interfering with Churches and their beliefs. As a matter of fact it specifically prohibits such interference of organized religions. There was never intended to be a separation of Church and State, and the Government has no right to regulate prayer or tell anyone that the Ten Commandments should be removed from public places. But in order to destroy this Nation, you first must destroy its morality. They knew the proper role of the Government is to Protect Equal Rights, Not Provide Equal Things. Edited October 9, 2011 by add
Lil Red Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='add' timestamp='1318201323' post='2318735']America is great because it is good. And once it ceases to be good it will also cease to be great.[/quote] isn't this what's called circular reasoning?
Deus te Amat Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1318221550' post='2318948'] isn't this what's called circular reasoning? [/quote] No.
Momma's Boy Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) In response to the op, this would also effect every diocesan health care plan as well. I am living in the diocese of Wichita and think I've heard something about that recently... Edited October 13, 2011 by Momma's Boy
Oremoose Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1318221550' post='2318948'] isn't this what's called circular reasoning? [/quote] No it is the "Ad Hoc" fallacy.
add Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 WASHINGTON (CNS) — The U.S. House Oct. 13 passed the Protect Life Act, which applies long-standing federal policies on abortion funding and conscience rights to the health reform law. WASHINGTON -- After an emotional floor debate, the House of Representatives on Thursday passed the [b][color=#0000ff] Protect Life Act[/color][/b] which prohibits women from buying health insurance plans that cover abortion under the Affordable Care Act and makes it legal for hospitals to deny abortions to pregnant women with life-threatening conditions. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), a proponent of the bill, told voters last week that its purpose is "to ensure that no taxpayer dollars flow to health care plans that cover abortion and no health care worker has to participate in abortions against their will." Despite a strong showing in the House, the bill is unlikely to pass in the Democrat-controlled Senate, and the White House said on Wednesday that President Barack Obama will veto the legislation if it ever reaches his desk.
dominicansoul Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 it figures... i'm glad he'll be unemployed soon...
Jesus_lol Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 [quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1318980309' post='2323401'] it figures... i'm glad he'll be unemployed soon... [/quote] if i recall correctly, you were about this confident in 2008.
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