OnlySunshine Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I wear a white matilla to Mass and I am one of the very few women who do veil at Mass at my parish. For me it is a reminder that Mass and adoration is different, putting on the veil makes me pause for a second before entering the Church and that pause really helps me focus. Plus the veil also reminds me that the Mass is a wedding feast. People have just gotten used to me wearing it though I have had a few people (mostly older) come up to me and tell me how happy they are to see someone who still follows the traditions they grew up with. As far as being the only one I figure it has to start with someone and if people are distracted by me veiling then that is up to them and not me. I am glad that you are able to do it in your Church. My mom and aunt always comment on people who wear veils as if they are trying to act "holier-than-thou" or attracting attention to themselves. The craziest thing is that they had to wear them at Mass before Vatican II! I am reluctant to wear one because I don't want to start a big argument. :(
NatalieisCatholic Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 www.veilsbylily.com Thank you so much! Those veils are so beautiful. :)
MichelleNicole Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 This is my first post I will introduce myself in another post, but I found this to be of great interest to me. I myself cover just about 90% of the time. I found some of your comments very interesting. I am so excited to hear that a few of you are coving full time. In my area I only see Mennonite and Amish that cover always, and in my EF parish most of the women cover only for mass. I also am found of modesty, long dresses and skirts that are very attractive, feminine and fashionable, without being immodest. Don’t get me wrong, sometimes you have to make the outfits work, by layering with tops because they are v-neck or slim-straps on the dresses, so I use stylish cardigans to cover my shoulders. Our Lord asked us to be in the world but not of it. John 15:19†If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.†And John 17:14 “I have given them thy word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.†We are called to be a sign and contradiction to the world’s views, because we belong to Christ. We are called to be witnesses of His Mercy, Love, and Salvation for all. As he has called us to be salt and light Mat 5:13-16 “You are the salt of the earth; but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trodden under foot by men. “You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hid. Nor do men light a lamp and put it under a bushel, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house. ...†I see all of the beautiful points you have all made from your experiences and through prayer, and all are wonderful insights, but not matter if you wear a head covering or not, its not going to matter for your salvation, but we must remember in St. Paul’s words “Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that you may prove what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.( Rom12:2 )And Try to learn what is pleasing to the Lord.( Eph 5:10 ) This doesn’t just effect what a wear on my body, the temple of the Holy Spirit, but also what I listen to in my music, what I watch as entertainment, who I decide to socialize with, this purity radiates my whole demeanor of life. When I act with love and charity because I belong to Christ people see that by what I am wearing. My actions and my visible signs that I am a faith follower of Christ and His one True Church make a good and attractive impression on those I have met in my daily witness to anyone God places in my path. Of course there is always persecution that comes with being faithful. A true sharer in the Cross. Thank you so much for this topic, and reminds me that I am not alone, and inspires me so much, with the grace of the Holy Spirit to continue and pursue this ministry or modesty and purity. Please also keep me in your prayers, as I continue discerning my vocation to religious life, which is the biggest reason I have joined this site. With my love and prayers in Christ Jesus, Michelle
AwedbyHisGrace Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I don't. I think it's a beautiful tradition and idea, but it would honestly be more of a distraction for me. I'm just not a hat person. Or even a headband person. I don't even wear winter hats....
FutureSister2009 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 http://www.catholichomeandgarden.com/Veils_And_Mantillas.htm This is where I want to get my veil from. She has some amazing ones
Anastasia13 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) I don't and I won't. It is just a part of a particular culture I think. In my part of the world - central Europe, no one does. Always do if I have communion. I go to Eastern churches and most of the time, nearly every woman does at least for communion if not for the whole service. When in Rome... (or Yerevan, Cairo, Beirut...) Edited February 1, 2013 by Light and Truth
JessicaKoch Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/topic/81740-ladies-do-you-wear-headcoveringsveils-for-mass/ http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/topic/81087-wearing-veils/ << I was once known as "Discerningsoul" but I don't remember my password, find a good list of stuff on veiling.(page two) We could even do a "Support the shy" day again! and I had bought two tiechels from: http://www.headcoverings-by-devorah.com/headcoverings_denim_tiechels.htm and I currently don't wear them. Let's change that! Friday is the 1st. for Mary lets all try to cover for her! Here is me showing them off when I first got them. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150175685476728.307790.747866727&type=3
HisAlone Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 My home parish is EF but I work for an Ordinary Form church. I didn't wear a veil when I first started at the OF because of all the reasons mentioned by so many of you. I finally asked myself this question, "what do I think when I see another woman wearing a veil to an OF Mass?" We'll I had to admit that I was truly edified by her humility. I didn't think badly of her at all. So I began wearing my veil. Along with that I made the commitment to kneel and receive Our Lord on the tongue at OF Masses (not trying to start another topic but they are part of the same package to me). I hope that if I am prayerful and humble I will cause no one distress, but ultimately it is what I believe Our Lord is asking of ME - I would never expect it of others unless the Church did. As a side note: Vat II and the current code of canon law never addressed "veiling" because it was a non-issue. They never dreamed that women would stop wearing the veil. Apparently a newspaper headline during Vat II said that women no longer had to wear veils and that was all it took to end thousands of years of wearing veils (old and new covenant). God veils what is sacred and life-giving (His Presence in the ark of the covenant in the tabernacle in in the desert, in the temple, and in every Catholic Church). Mary is the new Ark of the covenant; tabernacle of the incarnate presence. As mother of all her spiritual children she administers life-giving grace from God to us. God has veiled and crowned her with honor. As women we are life givers. We have been made by God to cooperate in His creative power. Because we are set apart for this holy purpose God is pleased that we would honor Him by imitating His Blessed Mother. Being in the presence of Our Lord requires a response...internal of course...external also (kneeling, bowing, genuflecting) It is certainly not required to wear a veil when in the presence of Our Lord, but I do so with humility and in imitation of Our Lady. I hope my rambling is edifying to someone!
JessicaKoch Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 My home parish is EF but I work for an Ordinary Form church. I didn't wear a veil when I first started at the OF because of all the reasons mentioned by so many of you. I finally asked myself this question, "what do I think when I see another woman wearing a veil to an OF Mass?" We'll I had to admit that I was truly edified by her humility. I didn't think badly of her at all. So I began wearing my veil. Along with that I made the commitment to kneel and receive Our Lord on the tongue at OF Masses (not trying to start another topic but they are part of the same package to me). I hope that if I am prayerful and humble I will cause no one distress, but ultimately it is what I believe Our Lord is asking of ME - I would never expect it of others unless the Church did. As a side note: Vat II and the current code of canon law never addressed "veiling" because it was a non-issue. They never dreamed that women would stop wearing the veil. Apparently a newspaper headline during Vat II said that women no longer had to wear veils and that was all it took to end thousands of years of wearing veils (old and new covenant). God veils what is sacred and life-giving (His Presence in the ark of the covenant in the tabernacle in in the desert, in the temple, and in every Catholic Church). Mary is the new Ark of the covenant; tabernacle of the incarnate presence. As mother of all her spiritual children she administers life-giving grace from God to us. God has veiled and crowned her with honor. As women we are life givers. We have been made by God to cooperate in His creative power. Because we are set apart for this holy purpose God is pleased that we would honor Him by imitating His Blessed Mother. Being in the presence of Our Lord requires a response...internal of course...external also (kneeling, bowing, genuflecting) It is certainly not required to wear a veil when in the presence of Our Lord, but I do so with humility and in imitation of Our Lady. I hope my rambling is edifying to someone! I always recive on the tounge but I don't knee yet though I do give a full knee to the floor genuflect.
Gabriela Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) I would love to, and I do when at the MEF or a traditional MOF. But the parish in my hometown is pretty liberal, and I'm a new convert, and I don't want people thinking of me as the "holier-than-thou" convert. So... :cry3: EDIT: I prefer to wear a buff or scarf tied off in the Orthodox Jewish way. Buffs: http://www.buffwear.com/ Orthodox Jewish headscarf: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdya6vYq7b1rlc8jjo1_250.jpg I never liked mantillas. Too lacy. :dontlike: Edited February 1, 2013 by curiousing
Mary+Immaculate<3 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I used to have a lacy white mantilla, but it was totally not me so I gave it to a friend. I used to wear a hat, but I've recently gotten out of the habit of wearing it. I should try wearing it again. For some reason my parents gave me a white chapel cap as a stocking stuffer for Christmas, but I think it looks stupid on me so I haven't worn it. All that to say that I have the desire to veil, but I haven't exactly found the way that works for me. The PSSC postulants wear black mantillas which I think I'd like better than white ones. If you don't like those ways, some of my friends who attend the EF wear fashion scarves (my sister calls them "fishnet" scarves because they're thin material) on their heads during Mass, and then wear them as a scarf afterwards. That works well, and you can have a lot of fun matching the scarf to your outfit. Depending on the size/shape/style of the scarf, you can wear it tied under your hair at the nape of your neck, simply draped in your head with the ends hanging down, or draping on end down the front, and the other down the back. Also, sheiscatholic had a good video on church veils. I don't always wear them, but they're cool.
TheLordsSouljah Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I should also mention that as a woman, I have been looked down upon by other women in the EF community (I attend both forms) and choose not to wear headcoverings because the degree of judgment that I have seen by some women who wear headcoverings in different EF parishes I've been to made wearing them unattractive to me personally. I was just talking to one of the priests in my former parish and he was telling me how in Europe those who attend the EF seldom wear a headcovering and often come to Mass in slacks. Thus I feel called to not wear a headcovering in Church to stand in solidarity with those who are judged for not wearing an optional item- sometimes quite severely. This of course, is purely my personal position and feeling on the matter. Lastly, I pray very hard for the conversion of the followers of the false prophet. The sack or head covering they wear is emblematic of servitude and supreme disrespect for women. Somehow Christian men are able to endure the beauty of the glory of the woman (hair) in the office and can concentrate on business but all of a sudden it is distracting and tempting in Church? I will not participate in blaming Eve for what is the man's responsibility. That's awful about being looked down on. That's just not right. Those people need prayers. Unfortunately in too many other places it is the other way round. People get accused of pride and trying to look 'holier' than everyone else. Its a bit sad really. I wear the mantilla at uni because it is accepted and not a distraction, but it would be an utter 'what-era-did-she-spring-from????' at my home parish. Though when I am at uni I don't simply wear it cause some guy is going to be staring my hair all the time, but out of respect for the Blessed Sacrament. A woman's hair has always been known as her 'glory', so to speak (i.e., one of the most beautiful features), and so part of tradition is that women cover theirs so as to give all attention to Christ. It is also an ancient sign of holiness and devotion, not to mention humility. I love this tradition of the Church and hope people can learn to accept both views. I must stress though that it is optional as you are saying, and you are right in that women should not be judged in simply because they wear a head covering or not. God bless
ToJesusMyHeart Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Veiling was one of the best decisions of my life. :)
ToJesusMyHeart Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I actually have a question sort of relating to this. Does anybody know with certainty what the Sisters of Life's policy on chapel veils is? Because when I visited them, none of the postulants wore veils, but several retreatants did. I can totally understand why they would ask postulants not to wear them (community uniformity), but does anybody know for sure if they flat out don't use them, or if it is simply optional to the postulant? I will ask Sr. A next time I speak with her, but if anybody has any information in the mean time, I would really appreciate your input. Thank you. :)
cartermia Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 I would veil, but the problem is that my church is kind of lay back when it comes to dress. I would stick out like a sore thumb! And I don't want to draw any attention to myself during the Mass Same as mine... I am glad that you are able to do it in your Church. My mom and aunt always comment on people who wear veils as if they are trying to act "holier-than-thou" or attracting attention to themselves. The craziest thing is that they had to wear them at Mass before Vatican II! I am reluctant to wear one because I don't want to start a big argument. :( My mom and grandmother do exactly that and that is why I don't wear the veil. My Confirmation is coming up and I might get a veil for that :think: ...
ChristinaTherese Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) I was at a Byzantine Catholic church this morning and all of the women were wearing veils. :) (That is, they all had some kind of covering on their heads, none of which were mantillas, as far as I saw.) Edited February 2, 2013 by Christina Thérèse
TheresaThoma Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 There are some older ladies at my Church that wear some awesome hats. I love it! but yup I'm pretty much the only person my age who veils. The only time that I felt really indecisive about wearing it was when I was asked to witness for RCIA to the whole parish after Mass. I went back and forth and then decided that I should just wear it and that I was worrying too much about what others thought.
EmilyAnn Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 I wear a mantilla, previously I used scarves to cover my hair. I have rarely seen anyone in either of the parishes (both OF) that I attend. I wear it out of personal choice. Simple as that.
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